Code of Conduct agreement and Mederk

Mederk by all accounts is a young coalition. Its member parties are either outright newly born or a reborn organizations. Like a new born child learning to walk upright the coalition has been making noises. It considers itself it is the best and brightest and biggest political organization in Ethiopia that is opposing the EPRDF. It is asking to sit one on one with the EPRDF to iron out political issues that it thinks are inhibiting to participate in the coming election. EPRDF has said it is ready to sit down but wants for Mederk to join the collective negotiation process under way with other political organizations. Mederk refused and has not signed the code of conduct that was signed by the four major organizations.
The question is, is Mederk playing Russian roulette with its political life and being coached by other forces to derail the coming election? Do you think Mederk has concluded that it will not win the election this coming May thus have decided to taint the election as not fair and free? Why it is not joining? Is it simply too young and unable to learn fast how to play politics in Ethiopia?
Do you think the conduct of agreement by the other four parties namely EDP, AEUP, CUDP and EPRDF is good for everyone and positive for the growing democracy in Ethiopia? If so and if you were a Mederk supporter would you tell the Mederk leaders to work out their differences and join the process? Have your say.
Listen also to this: http://aigaforum.com/audiovideo/voa_with_Sekutre_Merara_103109.mp3
Comments
Shame on u Dr.Merara Gudina.
Posted by: Homer | November 2, 2009 06:57 PM
Dr.Mrera Dudina should go back to school where he can study politeness.
Posted by: Homer | November 2, 2009 07:03 PM
MEDEREK is a new organisation as we all know but if you follow very attentively the discussion by Sekuture Getachew, he used his usual cheating strategy.
Ato SekuG said *lets discuss one or two days and later we can discuss your private question* Mind you, in two days they might signed the code of conducts and once signed EPRDF can left the room. So the so called MEDREK will remain empty hand. So the strategy is correct and very wise by dr Merara.
We know very well woyane and they are begging opposition to play role so that the election seems credible. They put in jail one opposition that they afraid and they beg weak oposiiton. Bravo woyane.
Posted by: moltot | November 2, 2009 07:32 PM
itis ahistorican event inethiopian politics
Posted by: demura yahya | November 2, 2009 08:02 PM
It is some bs excuse, if MEDREK considers itself a legitimate political party it needs to recognize the other parties as legitimate parties, what exactly could the reason be that they need to have a private party only with one party. That is non-sense. To me it sounds like they are wanting to make some deal just with EPRDF...hhhmmm that doesn't smell honesty [ at least no here].
Posted by: Dani | November 2, 2009 08:08 PM
MEDREK means anti multi_party system.
Posted by: feysel | November 2, 2009 08:44 PM
In my view the single most important and noble mission Medrek is saying to have is its commitment for the restoration of Ethiopia's RIGHT OF ACESS TO THE SEA!!!! If the EPRDF is ready to learn from its historic mistakes and start to rectify this, I believe Medrek will get minimal support and EPRDF will win. BUT if EPRDF continue to stubbornly stand by Ar-tera's side and if there is a free and fair elections(the most unlikely) I am afraid your EPRDF is gonna be outrightly and irreversibly destroyed by the voters.
The port issue is in every Ethiopian's mind, just mindful of that.
Posted by: Habi | November 2, 2009 08:52 PM
The code of conduct agreement shows the growing maturity of our politicians in both sides. Experience taught them discussion only must be used as instrument to narrow political gaps. I congratulate all participate in this historic achievement.
Dr.Merara has once again proved being disgrace of the opposition side with his never consistence and theatrical type of political position
Posted by: Solomon Keffa | November 2, 2009 08:59 PM
I think the ruling party, EPRDF, has the interest of doing things right and at the right time. And this, for the benefit of the country. There may be some political parties or influential persons who are interested more on their party or personal benefits than that of the country. That is why MEDREK has been crying very loud, insulting any body or organization that doesn’t go its [MEDREK’S] way. This is a kind of tactic to cover up its failure because the leaders of MEDREK pretty well know that they don’t have a chance in the coming election. A huge hug to all those who are struggling to plant the seeds of democracy and let it flourish. There is no going back, NEVER!
Posted by: Sase Naim | November 2, 2009 09:00 PM
this is a great news for peace loving Ethiopians.it is an evidence that our political culture maturing.there no place any more in Ethiopia for hate politics.offcourse this a shocking news for those crying hard in USA or else where in Europe.the so called ethiopian diaspora is a lost geneneration and a disgrace to Africa and in particullar for Ethiopia.the hate politics has no place in the 21st century.I advice to be part of a positive change.thanks to EPRDF forward looking policy and suport given by the Ethiopian people.we africans really aspire Ethiopia.
Posted by: Rymond | November 2, 2009 10:09 PM
Thank you Aiga!
To be honest, it is not the right time to comment on this because it is too early.
How ever,you have raised very important topic. Indeed you deserve praise for your tireless effort on contributing your share to the democratization process of our country by informing the people current issues.it is our vivid memory that EPRDF did sign similar agreement with the then kinijit. we saw what happened following the signature in the aftermath of the third national and regional elections. Now itis these same opposition parties, though some of them have changed their names, who have signed the code of condact with EPRDF. On the other hand, the EPRDF party has shown its full commitment to abide by the rulles and regulations of the country so tha the electon be free, fair and credibel. How ever, it is public secrete that eng.hailu shawel does n't tend to compromise when problems happen. Therefore, I remain pessmistic until the time the engineer proves that he finally behaved him self in the civilized manner.
with regards to medrek, it is Seeye Abraha, behaind the scene, who is making medrek to maintain its nonsense stance. It seems that he is very desperate with all acheivements of EPRDF in all fronts that is why he created medrek, collected rent-seeking 'politicians' from here and there and working day and night to either weaken or over throw the government illegally. His firm stand not to join his party to the nogotiation clearly implies this!
shame on you seeye, Gebru, Aregash, Asgede etal. who are working now with the same people ,derguist, whom you fought againt them in the battle field. Merara did nothing in the past and will do nothing in the future either. It is true that medrek will perissh under his 'leader ship'. He knows nothing other than insult.
Posted by: cherkos | November 2, 2009 10:47 PM
Dear Editor
When i saw this topic it brings me two things, that is, it is to say that we are open to discuss and the second issue is that to know the suggestions other than the supprters of EPRDF.
Before i went to the detail I will raise the first question.
Does the constitution forebid the rights of people alphabetically? That is to say do we find any world/words against these in the constitution?
As far as I know there is no any article that forbid but what is missing is the practicallity to excercise what is written on the constitution. Moreover the constitution declares the separation of the Judicial, Executives and the Legistlation and the practice is that all are one or the same.
Why we need a code of conduct when we have a constitution that is the only ruling law in the country?
What is needed in Ethiopia is the distinction and separation of the executive,judicary and legistlative.TPLF contolling the secutiry ,the police, Military and the administrative chains it is a farce to sign a code of conduct.
The freedon of institutions is the prerequisite to a free and fair election but without such scenario freedom of press,demonstration,association and electing its representative on his will.
Unless such prerequisites are not fulfilled it is a farce to sign any document.
Posted by: Berhanu Tesfaye | November 2, 2009 11:47 PM
Typical Ethiopian politics again!!!Aigas, try to ask yourself this question and answer it honestly
1.where are the 80 something parties?or are they telling us these are the only real ones?
2.Is shawels party is member of the current Parlament,bear in mind they said only parties represented can join..
3.There is nothing new in the document,you find them everywhere in the country of too much laws like Ethiopia
4.why too much talked,why is always to tackle one,to marginalize one,to foolish many..
5.EPRDF did a lot but still worried,why?after all those laws in favour,why? they don't have confidence,there is no means that somebody else will win,election 2000 is a benchmark!!!
Posted by: Daniel | November 2, 2009 11:48 PM
Meles and EPRDF cannot fool the Ethiopian people. The people know that the event is a drama, and each and every aspect of it is a lie. Hailu, Chamiso, and Lidetu are not trusted by the majority of the Ethiopian population. They cannot represent even 2 percent of the population. But the International Diplomats intentionally and purposefully love to be cheated by Meles over and over again, and on this occasion it seems he does not disappoint them. That is what matters most, because Meles needs gun and money to stay in power. He gets the gun from the military, and the money from Western donor countries. Hence, these are his true constituencies: the military and donor country diplomats. As far as he does not disappoint them, he will stay in power for a long period of time, regardless of what the Ethiopian people know whether his actions are full of lies or not.
May God empower the "good" over the "evil" in Ethiopia, and end the dominance of the "evil" over the "good" for the last three decades.
Posted by: Hann | November 3, 2009 01:18 AM
You need to respect and accept Medreks or Ginbot 7's or EPPF' choice.Ethiopians deserve a national gov. Not an ethnic dictatorship.
Posted by: Birega | November 3, 2009 02:47 AM
Forget the cynical with no substance, no alternative to offer, eexcept inciting hatred, I am very happy.
I would like congratulate the Ethiopian people and the signatory leaders.
I now begin my support for EPRDF and I will be going for the May 2010 election, not only to watch it happening but also to provide my service for Eg. Hailu and to Our PM Melese Zenawi. For the very reason that this national reconciliation made it happen now, even if it is too late.
We want action swiftly start with by releasing Ms Birtukan Medeksa and other prisoners. Note that I am not UDJ supporter I am AEUP
Thank you very much!
Posted by: Be Ananymous | November 3, 2009 03:05 AM
Medrek or UDJ for that matter is not afraid to run for election and believes that it can win the election. The EPRDF itself knows it. That is why it has arrested the chaiperson of UDJ Birtukan Mideksa last December on silly and phony excuses that do not hold water, and refused to release her eversince.
if Aiga or anyone think that EPRDF has a popular support and political strength (other than its gun), then I challenge them to prove it for us. let Birtukan Mideksa be released, let the continous harrassement of opposition members be stopped, let the constitution be respected and then we will see if EPRDF can win !!!! How about that ????????
Posted by: Girma Kassa | November 3, 2009 03:06 AM
As everyone can see from the above comments and from comments and discussions elsewhere, the imprisonment of Birtukan Mideksa is the most powerful indicator of the absence of fairness/justice on the part of EPRDF. EPRDF supporters claim Birtukan's pardon revocation was based on statements she herself made in which she denied asking for pardon. What makes this argument laughable is that people like Berhanu Nega have not only made the same statement, but have stated to pursue violent means to achieve their end. The latter alone is clearly a violation of the terms of the so-called pardon agreement, which should have caused revocation of their pardon. Technically speaking, Berhanu's or anybody else's pardon has not been revoked to date. It can not be argued that this is because Berhanu and the others reside outside Ethiopia because this that did not stop the gov't from criminally charging non-residents like Tamagne previously. So if the rule of law is clearly not the reason for EPRDF to throw Birtukan in jail, what is? The only reason I can think of is that they wanted to show their 'strong hand' to send a message to others. I personally do not believe Andnet or Medrek would be a stronger party if Birtukan was not imprisoned. On the contrary, I believe EPRDF miscalculated and made many more enemies by that stupid and egregiously unjust step!!!
Posted by: gelalcha | November 3, 2009 04:04 AM
...MEDREK does not have to wait till election time,it has already begun crying that the coming election will not be free and fair.this seems to be the birth mark of every new born opposion party in our country....and what the other four parties did is not just a mere agreement of code of conduct but a comitment to put the security and well being of the people before the interests of their parties,as democracy can not grow through caos....as for MEDREK;let us see what it can achieve in 201** election year;if it servives until then...
Posted by: bikasissay | November 3, 2009 04:16 AM
With out the participation of REAL OPPOSITION there wouldn't be and progress. Like it or not Medrek MUST be accomodated.Medrek is the only viable opposition with vision in Ethiopia.Forget the pupies Lidetu,Chemiso. Hailu is doing big business in Ethiopia he knows his options.
Posted by: Abe | November 3, 2009 04:21 AM
shame on you, Aiga.
What is the use of putting code of conduct on paper?
The problem is the ruling party, which stays in power for 20 years without fair election.
Bravo, MEDREK.
This is the right way to fight against this maffie group.
AIGA, you guys are nonsense. shut down your website and go join woyane.
Posted by: Anonymous | November 3, 2009 04:37 AM
No body in Ethiopia really believes anymore on election since the last one.
Aiga and its supporters know better than any body else that TPLF would never give the power to anybody, even for its young supporters. We have seen Meles promises to leave the office in 2010 and now the result.
I thought all the points in the agreement are already part of Ethiopian constitution and laws all the time. So why do they need to sign again. Or, all the previous elections were with out all these nice conditions?
The coming election, the agreement and all the talks of these days are just fake drama.
Hizbu indehone nektobachewal !!! Let them play the drama !!!!
Posted by: Kasu | November 3, 2009 05:14 AM
Abe
You are not invited by aigaforum.com to come here and bark. You are rather expected to be here to contribute to the development of peace and democracy undergoing in Ethiopia.
Girma Kassa,
The woman is a legal prisoner. Period. EPRDF cannot stuff pardon by force into her mouth. Can it?
Posted by: Henok | November 3, 2009 05:32 AM
TPLF can not rule like the old days and the opposition in Ethiopia can not go the way it has been going on for the last five years.
The western financiers of the regime broke the new deal to brake the deadlock.
If TPLF used this opportunity to make itself legitimate in the eyes of the world without opening the democratic space without any limit the hand shake between Meles and Hailu will just be remembered as the failed opportunity.
The Medrek crowd if it has anything different than TPLF's EPRDF we will see it and the public will give its verdict.
The so called armed groups like OLF, ONLF, patriotic front and Ginbot7 have nothing to show on field to get any respect from the Ethiopian people.
If they are following the track of coming to power like TPLF did nineteen years ago the Ethiopian people have no back to carry them and war is inevitable. The war to remove them from power. This cycle has to be broken once and for all and let us give our hands to those who are in the other side. Let us shake the other hand as a sign of friendship and solidarity. That was why Mandela shake his hand to the Apartheid boss to save his people from the inevitable war.
Posted by: Tenager Ewenetu | November 3, 2009 06:39 AM
I believe if you are real democrats keep my message un-edited on this blog. Election drama alone cannot bring true peace and development in Ethiopia. Alliance with the vanquished and humilated and probably insane individuals, with no popular support does not guarantee the sustainability of the 'real estate business' based growth in TPLF- (Tgrai mafia) controlled Maficratic-economy. It might shine but rotten at the heart. The 'famine' in Ethiopia right now is the result of the Tigrai Mafia plunder of the Economy, and no show can cover this
government failures. Mischief and satisfying the MI5's or CIA's criterion by shaking hands with useles politicians in the 'opposition' camp cannot save your embezzled public properties at your disposals. Meles and his group do not represent Tigreans and their genuine interests. The minority rule of Tigrai mafia is not eternal and cannot be eternal, we are prepared to die for our dignity. You said you won the Oromos, Afars, Gurages, Amars, wolaitas,kembatas, etc ( Ethiopians collectively and individually); now we, one by one or collectively will choose to fight you by gun!! to proof if you really won one of us, indeed!!!! Tigrian mafias you are few and you will be burnt by the fire you lit in Ethiopian history. Whatever show you put up to be used by your savors (MI5,IMF;WB; CIA;or Paul Kagame,Etc.) They will not save you from the volcano that will ingulf you soon than latter. The end of the Mercinary rule in Ethiopia is approaching with lightening speed!!
God saves Ethiopia! Enternal bandas that are grand sons and dauthers of the treators that showed the route for the British Expedition to Magdella will be punished once more! You know that your forfathers helped
foreign enemies to attack the very heart of Ethiopian
kingdom. You are doing what you know, we will do what we must do, eliminate you!!!!
MI5 media will replay your shows of handshake, but you cannot cheat any more, we are happy to die while we fight you!!! No cheating or foreign support will change our heart for you! Thanks God for making us feel good about this!!!!
Posted by: peterson | November 3, 2009 06:45 AM
Aiga you are funny. Woyane is a mercenary group, there will not be or un-natural to have true election with tribalist mentality.
Posted by: behrhan | November 3, 2009 06:56 AM
I have read the "code of confuse" woyane has written and chamiso signed it. Where is the main issue that every body is Killed, jailed and abducted for political reason? What about the power of militias who can do whatever they want whenever they want? the right of people to move freely without reporting to "garees" and "goxii"?
The confusing document does not mention any thing about the consquence of breaking the code since Woyane know that it will not abide by it.
Posted by: wako | November 3, 2009 07:18 AM
Yes, Medrek took the right measure. There is no point in entering into pointless negotiation that does not address some of the key problems of the electoral process in Ethiopia. For example, the commissioner of the electoral commission is handpicked by the ruling party to make sure that s/he works of the interest of PM Meles. The negotiation process doesn't address such core issues among others. A negotiation process that does not address the core issues will only serve in legitimizing the anticipated rigging and deceit by the EPRDF.
Now the parliament is going to enact the elecoral code agreed by EPRDF and the other three parties is laughable. The parliament is also expected to provide special previledge to the four "founding members". There are close to 90 parties that are expected to participate in the upcoming election. It is clear that EPRDF is creating its usual "them and us" mentality-- "them" being Medrek and other parties, and "us" being EPRDF, Lidetu, Hailu and Ayele. As to Lidetu, few of us know what he did in Lalibela during the early years of EPRDF's ascend to power-- and of course Lidetu knows it very well. I have no confusion as to who Lidetu works. The same story about Ayele. As to Hailu, I think Meles is embracing him the way he embraced other top notch Dergists such as Shimelis Mazengia (aka Susulov). Shimelis was released from jail immediately after the TPLF split upon the direct order of PM Meles. What Shimelis did for Meles after his release is history and honest historians will get a chance to chronicle it in histroy books. Therefore, this coalition of four parties and the electoral code of conduct they have agreed upon is another tool of deciet for EPRDF. I am glad Medrek did not take part in this process.
Let me reverse the question back to you Aiga-- why did EPRDF refuse to discuss the issues raised by Medrek?
-Haben
Posted by: Haben | November 3, 2009 07:27 AM
Which issues did Mederk raised and EPRDF refused Haben?
The problem is Mederk does not have an issue to talk outside of the other parties... EPRDF has asked Mederk to list issues it thinks are worth discussing between itself and EPRDF? democratic space, "political prisoners" funding all these issues are issues others are also asking! Tell us why Mederk wants to make these issues private matter?
Mederk was born yesterday and it has the audacity to fool the public it is big and the main opposition so other opposition are undermined! And you Haben want EPRDF to fall for such crap? Thanks
Posted by: Admin | November 3, 2009 07:43 AM
TPLF/EPRDF/THE SELF IMPOSED CRIMINAL GANGS are deceitful attempting to cheat the world and others. You actions for the last 33 years speaks louder than your words!!!!!!Now EPRDF is signed to the document. What about the other arms of the BANDITS, TPLF and Gov.?When the time comes you are going to twist everything by saying not responsible. What are you doing to the parties and the people as we speak.While negotiating, aren't you harassing, imprisoning? Your document is dead on arrival!!!AMONG LONG LIST OF GIREVANCES>>>CHANGE THE ELECTION BOARD by an Independent organ, ALLOW MEDIA USAGE equally, STOP HARASSING!!!!!RESPECT THE RULE OF LAW!!!!!LET THE POLICE, ARMY AND SECURITY STAY AWAY FROM SERVING THE CRIMINAL GANG!!!!!PROMOTE CULTURAL TOLERENCE!!!!!Then there will be fair election.YOUR TPLF/EPRDF is caught in their web of lies and became hostage of their own lies and propaganda!!!!DESTROY the MONSTER you promote ETHNICITY!!!!!WE KNOW YOUR WORLD HAS TURNED UPSIDE DOWN AS YOU DON"T WORK FOR DEMOCRACY!!!!!See you coming to your senses and stop telling lies!!!
Gemechu
Posted by: Gemchu Serbessa | November 3, 2009 08:23 AM
This shows the greatness of EPRDF and how they care for the unity of Ethiopia.A lot can be said about those the so called medrek groups but the main issue is to know for what they stand. Going to shabia and bowing and taking command from issaias shows how desperate they are for power, beside as you all listen to their member Berhanu negas new year message on pp 12 and 13 he gave alqaeda type message to his followers.As many peace loving people circulating petition to deport this terrorist mind person to justice ,I urge all of you to sign and send a petition to authorities and anti-terrorist forces. Thank you.
Posted by: Kill Terrorist | November 3, 2009 08:26 AM
Yeah right! really a new born child! the reason that Medrek decided to bycot the Ethiopian election of 2010 is:because they have nothing to proof at all.they preach about democracy in Ethiopia but they forgot that to follow the rule of law and cooperate to to do their share in the political process of our country is the first step of democracy. in a democratic countries,we have never seen leaders to jump to the top just like that! leaders come through several steps starting from the bottom,like the EPRDFites. they are simply acting the attitude that led our country to be the poorest.they said that they only want to to to EPRDF? what a shame! what I personally recommand for Medrek the Derek is: they need to take their time to grow politically.
Posted by: yasin | November 3, 2009 08:41 AM
One question to admin.
Do you know what the question of Medrek is? That is a request to EPRDF to obey the rule of law, to respect the constitution? So with out respceting and obeying the rule of law of the country, how comes Medrek should sign on code of conduct that it excludes major repression of of basic human rihts, unfair usage of media, electoral appointees....? tetahahizom alewuta etom wushitom zifaletu sebat....
Posted by: Tibebe-brhan | November 3, 2009 08:50 AM
Abe you wrote " Girma Kassa, The woman is a legal prisoner. Period. EPRDF cannot stuff pardon by force into her mouth. Can it?"
Birtukan Mideksa is a prisoner opf conscious currently in jail because of her political view. The legal base of her arrest is controversial, vague and unambiguous. Even the TPLF founder Sibhat Nega does not even understand why she is jailed. There are sources that many EPRDF top leaders like Tewodros Adanom, Abay Tsehai, Arkebe Ekubay , Ambassador SAmuel and AMbassador Berhane Christos and many more...are not happy by the arrest of Birtukan. Only few hardcore, with medieval set of mind, who happened to be controlling the army and security apparatus are renegading on it. Ato Meles must reign in these people and do the right thing for Ethiopia, the democratic process and the EPRDF itself. BIRTUKAN MIDEKSA MUST BE FREED NOW !
failure to free Birtukan will surely poison the political atmopshere of our country and lead us to something that we all do not want to see.
I am sure EPRDF folks are not that naive that they thinks that by bringing Hailu Shawel to their side would change the political dynamism to their favor.
Posted by: Girma Kassa | November 3, 2009 08:51 AM
Medrek should join the multi-party process. What do they think they are-some knd of Royals-with "blue blood"? Give me a break!
Why should they ask for preferntial treatment from EPRDF? Every Ethiopian is equal under the law of the land.
Gebru and Siye could have contributed positively for building democtaric system by joining the 4 signatory parties. It is still not too late to join the process.
On another note, thank you Aiga for posting the interview of Eng.Hailu. One minor comment that I have on that specfic AUPE RADIO program is about the song they played "Ethiopia-Hagerai". I like it, but they should have played the orginal song by Feriew Hailu (from Tigrai-Adwa). This is just to honour the right person for the song, nothing else. But anyway it is perfectly copied and I like it!
By the way, Aiga, can you play the original song if you have it....Thanks!
Long Live Ethiopia!
Posted by: Tesfai | November 3, 2009 08:56 AM
Girma Kassa,
You've always been a preacher of doom and gloom. Nothing new. As for Birukan Medeksa, no body except extremists like yourself lose sleep over her legally just incarceration.
Posted by: Guna | November 3, 2009 09:00 AM
We can't think of a democratic electtion in Ethiopia where there is no democratic institutions.
There are no indepedent institutions which can impliment the democratic principles of election.
I commend the stand of MEDREC not to participate in the so called code of conduct agreement This agreement is nothing but a paint for the so called EPRDF to look good internationally.
By the way why do they need this code of conduct? It is a usual tactic of the ruling party to look good.If they are genuine enough, they could have formed independent institutions which play crucial role in democratic elections.
To me it is naive to expect from the TPLF leaders
a fair election .Democracy
to this leaders is to follow instructions given by them.
We know this from what they did to the youth of tigrai who joined the movement.So many of them were killed brutally for having a different opinon.
So what kind of democracy do we expect from TPLF.
Posted by: Embelay bele tigray | November 3, 2009 09:22 AM
Medrek,
Stop white washing your self by blacking others. either walk with us or get out of the way. there is a process for everything. you can not sercumvent process please crawl , walk and you are free to run . I am sure by then Ethiopians will have democracy and the process well figured out. Please join and don't let HISTORY pass you by. Make HISTORY.
Posted by: the Pilot | November 3, 2009 09:40 AM
Aiga, thanks for your respectful response; and I must say that, by doing so, you are contributing for the enhancement of our country’s civil discourse. Let me briefly respond to your questions.
Some of the issues Medrek wanted to discuss are: access to government media for campaigning, establishment of independent electoral board, curtailing harassment on opposition members, supremacy of law, and the role of international observers. The other three parties who chose to negotiate with EPRDF through the end don’t seem to have issues of harassment at this time. On the contrary, there are several Medrek members still languishing in prison. The three new partners of EPRDF do not have issues with the electoral board. Medrek believes that the electoral board should be independent from any form influence by the ruling party.
Under normal circumstances, Medrek should have accepted the offer and continued negotiations with EPRDF and the three “opposition” parties. However, knowing who Lidetu and Ayele are, Medrek did the right choice—boycott the negotiation. Due to several reasons, I do not wish to disclose or go any further than this about Lidetu’s relationship with the government. But, I can imagine why Medrek chose not to participate in serious negotiations in the presence of Lidetu and Ayele.
I do not wish EPRDF to fail. I do not wish the other opposition to fail either (except the likes of Berhanu Nega and other Tigray bashers— who must be stopped by any means). Let the people of Ethiopia get a chance to decide whom they want through a fair and transparent election process. Some of the issues Medrek is raising are crucial for the realization of fair and transparent election.
Finally, whether Medrek as an entity is young or old (in terms of counting years) is inconsequential. What is important is the depth of the program they have—which seems good to me and many others.
-Haben
Posted by: Haben | November 3, 2009 09:58 AM
EPRDF! Pls do not panic,continue with your eternal courage!Pls ignore,the funny medrek people! They are all power-mongers.I assure you they will have a split within a split of a month if not a second.Pls note the fact that all Habeshas do not know who and what is benefitial for them.They have the inclination to love tyrant leaders and btchers like Tewodros,Mengistu and menelik.Pls note the fact that habeshas are outlaws by nature,if I am not genralizing.But believe they are always after cursing good leaders and always yearn for the toppling of benevolent leaders.That is the fact.Now they hate the EPRDF,simply because they do not kill in masses,but punish those who do not abide by the tenets of rule of law.It is in the nature of Habeshas to depose leaders,be they kings,presidents or chancellors,be they benevolent or malevolent.they want to create havov and crisis so that it will be easy for them to loot.You have seen it in History.they looted after the fall of kings and emperors and even after the demise of the butcher marxist regime of Mengistu.it is recorded inhistory.The medrek people are bent to plunge Ethiopia into a situation where the opportunity comes for them to loot.But I assure you,these people will be lynched by their own supporters,who will at the end of the day will realize,that their would-be leaders are not genuine,but liers and cheats.Pls do not beg them to come to terms with you.They will come to beg you after a little while.You will wonder when you realize my prediction coming true.
Posted by: bogos | November 3, 2009 09:59 AM
You guys are once again talking wrong about mederek. Mederek has the right to join or not to join the election 2010 or the recent agreement that was reached by the three political party regading the code of conduct of election 2010.It is not what law or agreements are available in ethiopia that matters it is whether or not the laws or agreements are respected by all parties including the ruling party. The ruling party particularily the prime minister is acting like the owner of democracy in ethiopia. as long as there no level playing field for all parties in ethiopian politics there will not be a free and fair election in ethiopia at all .With regarding mederek, I can guaranttee you this is the political party that can not be ignored by all means. the melesawian shawel will not happen if it was not for mederek. your leaders in eprdf saw what was, is, and will come in the future. Interms medrek is too young, you know how yonge tplf was. yes they are yonge but determine to make difference in ethiopian politics as usual. I belief the have what it takes to become one.
Posted by: yesha68 | November 3, 2009 10:25 AM
Message to Medrek,
To say the least, we know you have a rough road ahead, because of your unknown political stands to most, but the biggest stumble is your arrogance. The politics of today has changed and your “MAY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY” approach is won’t get you any ware this days. Please wake up and smell the coffee.
Posted by: Ted | November 3, 2009 10:31 AM
Girma Kassa,
What is the point in telling theTigrean singer of "Hthiopia Hagere" Frew here? Is it new for Tigreans to sing and die for Ethiopia. BTW, do not lie. Frew Hailu is from Tembien Abbyi Addi, not Adwa. No difference for me wether hi is from Adwa or Tembien. He is simply a Tigrean/Ethiopia.It is obious your malicious intent of saying Adwa
Adwa adwa adwa
Posted by: Henok | November 3, 2009 10:52 AM
Mederek is a Lion without teeth. I don't take them sieriously.
Posted by: alem | November 3, 2009 03:07 PM
As awhole Medrek is doing fine in the democratization process.where as, if u come to those wrong poeple,I mean not much but few, in this party are ill informed to join the next election 2010.if someone is following these wrong individuals,if any, s/he will fail with them...!
Posted by: KuRUstu | November 3, 2009 10:22 PM
So!! Hailu Shawel and Co. are for a peaceful multi-parti demcoratic system and not Gebru Asrat-..
" Mishak Sherafat..." rediculous indeed. It is obvious for us Tigrayans on how far the traitor clique can go to sustain power!! Sebhat's cemetry will be difficult to dig!!! Mekabrkum Aytikwatin!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | November 4, 2009 12:43 AM
As you have been stating in your articles recently you seems to be concerned about the mental health of Eng. Shawel.I think we can all now agree that your diagnosis of his senility is so evident that he can not represent himself let alone a party.On the ground of competency his participation should be void and discarded.
Posted by: germa | November 4, 2009 04:12 AM
No matter how some haters refuse to accept the greateness of EPRDF, believe me! EPRDF will be remembered as a champion of democracy in the future history of Ethiopia.as Ethiopians develop,the reality will emerge then EPRDF will be the champion of democracy. EPRDF have the gut to teach the hyenas of Ethiopia,mercyful
Posted by: yasin | November 4, 2009 04:49 AM
Medrek is just another political toy in Ethiopia ,a collection of arrogant elite politicians who doesn't learn from their past.Bertukuan also is another nightmare for Ethiopia.as a low graduate, Bertukuan herself had better to know that what she said in Europe is against what she signed to get her pardon, just simple!unless she attained her law paper without deep knowledge. Now the wise political parties have signed the code of conduct,a new political era have been born in Ethiopia & we will defend this as usual.
As of Medrek,let me say just this: "chew leraseh setl taf't ,alebelezia dingay tebleh twereweraleh!" Ethiopians have paid a hefty price to rich here by defeating the detractors & will continue to pay if it is needed,period.
"Gimel min teshekmeshal shimel tadia min yawezawzshal amel" Medrek's unproductive character is just an "Amel" the goodness of EPRDF is clear & wide open! Medrek's main concern is that Ethiopia is growing with out them and they think they can do it themselves by removing EPRDF,a day dream!. what they forgot is : EPRDF is as strong as steel that nobody can sway to any wrong direction. EPRP,have tried,Derg have tried,EDU have tried ...the day they tried to mess around EPRDF/TPLF then this is it! running to save their life.believe me the stick of TPLF that they tasted is the one that is irritating them until now. EPRDF is the winner militarily & we don't have anybody better than EPRDF sofar.Now, Either Medrek will be begging to be part of the process or it will be discarded,period.
peace & love for our country.
Posted by: yasin | November 4, 2009 05:26 AM
Aiga,
FYI, Congressman Donald Payne is under Ethics investigation.
http://blog.taragana.com/n/house-ethics-committee-expands-investigation-of-house-ways-and-means-chairman-charles-rangel-190955/
Posted by: Dalol | November 4, 2009 06:14 AM
Medrek is full of big talking spiteful orange revoluion conspiring village idiots.
Posted by: Dalol | November 4, 2009 06:17 AM
EPRDF has once again proved to be a mature and responsible party. But Hailu has even now unconsciously indicated that he would use every available legal means plus illegal means to come to power and use it to deal with his personal enemies.
Posted by: Ewnetu | November 4, 2009 06:26 AM
To Girma Kassa,
Please don't rant. I just wanted to say one has to honour the late Feriew Hailu from Tigrai, by playing the original song-"Ethiopia Hagerai".
On Medrek, I still insist they should join the democtatization process by signing the agreement. If they have an issue, it could be adressed through the multi-party forum. Birtukan's case could also be discussed within the multi-party process. No preferntial treatment is necessary.
Posted by: Tesfai | November 4, 2009 06:52 AM
MEDREK= SEYE ABRAHA
G7 = BERHANU NEGA
MEDREK + G7 = CHAOS
Posted by: Rahel | November 4, 2009 07:20 AM
Another EPRDF’s cover up, Eng. Hailu is the next symbol President. He is a sellout. As to Medrek, I don't know why EPRDF is afraid of the real opposition?
By the way AIGA, Do you remember you were saying this guy (hailu Shawel) was dergist, have blood in his hand? That hand is shaking the same hand on the other side (meles)?
Posted by: Kiros Girmay | November 4, 2009 07:55 AM
Kiros Girmay,
Since when did Negasso Gedada and the rest of recycled old fools become the real opposition?
Posted by: Weygud | November 4, 2009 08:09 AM
Brother "Weygud". You did indeed gave the right question to brother "kiros Girmay" -Weygud! Imber "Weygud!since when Negasso and Merera became real oposition? I have no idea.Did you see Merera and Negaso on the video posted on my blog www.Ethiopiansemay.blogspot.com how Merea and Negasso were been laughed at by the TPLF parliament memebers? Were they real opposition? since when? Oh!
Posted by: GETACHEW REDA | November 4, 2009 08:36 AM
From GETACHEW REDA
Response to Girma Kassa; regarding Birtukan;
Girma Kassa said
“failure to free Birtukan will surely poison the political atmopshere of our country and lead us to something that we all do not want to see.” (Spelling errors Girma Kassa’s)”-
Though I am for the release of her and thousands of prisoners arrested or perished /disappeared before her, your way of advocating, saying seems to me empty mouth with no coherent plan to secure her release. Why would you ask the ruling junta to release her if you can’t do it you and your Ginbot 7 and the Diaspora sitting Ducks who lead her in to such disastrous end, and you failed to nothing for her release? Your effort of throwing shorter articles and poems are not going to help her release. All you need to do is go to the country and do neutralize the poisonous atmosphere you’re talking about (poisonous atmosphere created only because of her case only!!?) by being there in person to protect “we all do not want to see”. What was that?” You and your Ginbot 7 are here talking “fantasy revolution from afar”. You are attacking AEUP who is fighting for her release as well, but you yourself is doing nothing but talking “bogus threat”. You know your advocating for one person in prison is sickening and amateurish If you are indeed a man of truth, you should have fight and stand for all prisoners arrested before her. Even TPLF fighter prisoners languishing still in prison that you do purposely ignore to stand and write articles for them are Ethiopians as well need advocacy. Don’t you think? Why are you dying hard for one person’s release? Do you know how many prisoners arrested and disappeared in that country illegally still languishing without even seeing a day of court? Why is that you failed to talk about them, but focus only on Birtujkan?Getachew Reda www.Ethiopiansemay.blogspot.com
Posted by: GETACHEW REDA | November 4, 2009 09:03 AM
GOOD START mechachal is better than ignoring and fighting by useing bad words manm ymta bewnberu hulum ysru ysru.
Posted by: kahsay | November 4, 2009 09:21 AM
This is a reply to Ato Getachew Reda who wrote the following "Why would you ask the ruling junta to release her if you can’t do it you and your Ginbot 7 and the Diaspora sitting Ducks who lead her in to such disastrous end, and you failed to nothing for her release? Your effort of throwing shorter articles and poems are not going to help her release. "
I do not think this Getachew Reda is the Getachew Reda whom we all know.
Either way here is my reply. I don't understand why he is bringing G7 in this picture. What we are talking about is events in Addis Ababa. G7 has taken its own path and possibly working to engage the regime some other ways. What we are talking here is about the Sheraton agreement. We all want this agreement to bare fruit. We are willing to give Ato Hailu and Ato Meles the benefit of the doubt. I CAN TELL YOU THIS IF THE SHERATON AGREEMENT DOES NOT LEAD TO THE RELEASE OF BIRTUKAN MIDEKSA, ONE CAN BE ASSURED THAT THE STATUS QUO POLITICS OF HATE AND RECRIMINATION SHALL CONTINUE. Parties may decide to join the election, but the ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE WILL BOYCOT IT. THE REGIME WILL STAY IN POWER. BUT NOT BECAUSE IT WILL WIN THE ELECTION, BUT BECAUSE IT HAS GUNS.
However if Birtukan Mideksa is immediately released and the UDJ freely allowed to function in all regions, if its members are not harrassed, then we can see real competion and , yes we can then hope for the better.
As to AEUP they will amnswer to the public. They have taken big risk by joining hands with EPRDF in the Sheraton meeting. If the Sheratojn meeting bring results, then they will get credit for their boldness. Sometimes, leaders must take some risk. If nothing comes out in few weeks, then they will be punished for giving the regime International victories for NOTHING. TIME WILL TELL.
Posted by: Girma Kassa | November 4, 2009 10:37 AM
Dr. Merara Gudena,,shame on you. I don't think he is ready to lead the country.
Posted by: Lili | November 4, 2009 10:57 AM
Do not trust Beyene Petros. He is a traitor and power monger. Where there is power, he is always there. Do you remember how he was upsetted and said "the mihdar is shut" when he was not considered for presidency (when the old Girma selected again for presidency)
Posted by: Goitom | November 4, 2009 11:21 AM
I think they should sign this one and negotiate for the remaining.I guss they are following same way of palying political leadership as done by CUD-subjecting to emotional presure of extremists and seeking support form them. Medrek has not showed up deep thought leadershiop.For me this is informign us that the organization will soon crumble like its predissessor CUD.
Posted by: Assefa | November 4, 2009 11:31 AM
Ato Girma,
Long time ago you told us in many ways if the government release the jailed kinjit leader all will be okay and you may even support EPRDF in many ways. The leaders were pardon and released. What did you do then?
You went searching for excuses to denounce EPRDF and Hail Shawel in sync with Berhanu Nega and company. You broke your promise!
You told us also, it is Hailu Shawel who was the problem and not Birtukan or Berhanu. Before we put a Q-tip in to our ears to clean so we can hear you clean you started blaming Berhanu Nega in support of Birtukan. The question we have for you is are you looking for anything to blame EPRDF and so that you do not call a spade a spade and denounce kinjitoch and their left over’s for the mess they are in? Man Birtukan is a legal prisoner not politicial prisoner!
Thanks
Posted by: Zeru Hagos | November 4, 2009 12:20 PM
Admin,
Mederek might be young, but it is in the hearts and minds of millions, that you will find out real soon.
May I add, Seeye Abraha is the man, a very brilliant man. It is the difference between the Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks. Menshevik EPRDF/TPLF refused to change course, it continued to wage war against the Ethiopian people. Bolshevik Medrek, realized how much the hate is consuming Ethiopia, how everything is paralized and still. They decided to stop the brutal war against Ethiopians. For that simple reason, THEY WILL WIN.
Bye Bye, Meles.
Posted by: Shewaerkabesh | November 4, 2009 03:02 PM
Medrek wants some real issues to be addressed,but EPRDF refused to discuss them since EPRDF has no interest in a transparent and fair electoral system .
to say birtukan is not a political prisoner is absurd.what was she in prison for before her release? she doesn't need pardon from EPRDF that arrested her illegally in the first place.it is a shame EPRDF talks about democracy while locking up individuals for expressing their views.
Posted by: ahmed | November 4, 2009 03:45 PM
From GETACHEW REDA
Dear brother Girma Kassa:
Yes, I asked you on my earlier response to you, that “why do you beg/ask Meles to release Bertukan when you can do it yourself”. By saying this you seemed to be caught by my response. You shouldn’t be. I said it, because your own words said so. Let me quote you on your previous article on “Ethiopia- message of Easter” you said, I will quote you-
““When we celebrate Fassika let us remember that the freedom we need to get is not necessarily from the dictatorial and ethnocentric policies of the EPRDF. What we need is to be free from ourselves. We are our own enemy. If we clean up our mess and come together as one force and if we take off the clothes of fear, forcing the current regime of Meles Zenawi to respect the will of the people would have been a cakewalk. We were not able to deliver the release of our great leaders and get our freedom not because Meles Zenawi and his cadres are strong. It is because we are divided and imprisoned by FEAR. “end of quote.
To my surprise, you condemned the AEUP’s agreement signing the rule of conduct for the election as useless, an agreement that won’t release Bertukan from prison. My response to you is- “AEUP tried every point necessary to be implemented including the release of not only Birtukan but also thousands of others (you are only looking and focusing at her release). If the ruling party does understand the significant of releasing her to build a positive record- that is great.- but, if he refuse to do so, AEUP is not going to sit idle and wait to you or Ginbot 7 or Gebru/Seye/Merea/Negasso/Mesifen/Beyene…. or others to drag the suffering of the people for a prolonged period knowing these parties you mentioned are so weak and no vital brain to do the job (so far as I saw them since her imprisonment).
You said- parties can participate in the election, but the Ethiopian people will boycott the election. How silly! What is your evidence? Can you please do so? You mean to tell me AEUP has less supporters than Gebru Asrat (5thousand-10thousand supporters in Tigray. Merara and Negaso few thousands. And Siye- himself one supporter- may be his family include. UDJ- 200 protectors lead by Dr.Araya- the record shows such). So which millions of the supporters of those mentioned are to boycott?
How easy are for you the Diaspora opposition guys to run immediately call for a “boycott”, knowing you yourself can’t be absent three days from your company with out permission? None of those/including you will be there to participate the call of boycott. I know the fact. Only few can do carry such heavy mission. Writing is good, trust me- hiding in a safe place is good. Feels every thing cake walk (to use your word). I will tell you the fact/ The fact is if there will be a boycott- it will not come from Hailu Araya who insisted to limit protesters for the release of Bertukan or from Siye/Gebru/Merrera who can mange a handful gatherings with no office to work and call a public protest- - it will be, a boycott, it will be only by AEUP the largest opposition in the country (look the biology of Kinijit) if there is going to be if necessary. I guarantee you that. What were the EDJ doing the last year and half if they can call the people to boycott in order to release Bertukan? How is it possible for you to say “boycott- because Birtukan is in jail – or UDJ refuse to do its talks privately with the ruling class”. Do they have a base/popular support to call a boycott? I doubt it. You know it and I know it. Before the boycott- the UDJ- Merera/Beyene /Negasso will run to their parliament- if (they are lucky and qualified to be there without participating in the election.)
By the way- why do you dislike AEUP for joining the election? Didn’t you said before – I will quote you-;
“It is time to get our deliverance from our own bondage. Making fun of Meles Zenawi and cursing him day and night is not a solution. It is time to declare “FASSIKA” “believe Ethiopia has new Moses, and Joshuas. They are currently and unjustly incarcerated in Kaliti Prison. They are guided by spiritual values and believe Ethiopia’s problems are spiritual ones (hate, tribalism, selfishness, bitterness, despair.) that can be solved only by spiritual solutions. (Love, unity, peace, tolerance, dialogue.) They believe in peaceful struggles and are showing us the way by sacrificing their life.”
So, where is your spiritual solution here? Why would you dislike AEUP for doing what you asked before on your articles? Thanks- yes, this is me Getachew Reda not other person – you can find me on www.Ethiopiansemya.blogspot.com
Posted by: GETACHEW REDA | November 4, 2009 04:16 PM
Thank you Aiga and Getachew Reda,
I am so happy for the first time and express, my feeling, to this site, so publicly since 1991.
Many decades had passed in a senseless civil war and blood shade.
It is now time for national reconciliation and dialogue. I beg stakeholders espcially EPRDF, to keep what he promised, as epected as that of from a amature and wise party/State.
It should be noted that, it is to the best interest of all. This reconciliation process is not about winner or loser or one benefits better than the other. Please, please, follow Ethiopian, let us start thinking better/ as learnd. Remember we lost so much so many years for luck of anger management and how to controll our own instinct.
When we love each other, comming together and compromise as in a win some/loose some basis, at that point and at that point only we do a great favoure to us all as a nation.
Hence, let us get civilised, instead of naming and shaming Hailu Shawel, who has been the biggest head line and breaking news for the so called learned, educated, prominant scholars.
At this moment, I just pose to think about Prof. Asrat W. in instead of Hailu, how would he be played by the same people today. Glad, he rested in peace.
Finally, Thank you Getachew for the information regarding prisoners other than Birtukan, and to fire back on cynical power mongers, do nothing but good at naming and shaming Hailu since he began the struggle for democracy.
The truth is this idividualdo not care much for Ethiopia/Ethiopians but for themselves.
That is the reason they dismissed this cornerstone move. This is a land mark achievement in our history. This is the beginning of the end towards achieving a peaceful and prosperous future, for our nation.
So, I am looking forward to take part in 2010 election. Not only to witness but also to helping the process by directly involving.
God bless our nation,
Posted by: aregash g, london | November 4, 2009 04:22 PM
There is no difference between derg and Medrek. They have similar agenda regarding democracy and unity. According to derg and medrek no party should exist that doesn't support their opinon. Like derg medrek doesn't recognize the other opposition parties. Can you imagine how Medrek will treat Ethiopians if they come to power? Dictatorship will reign in back in Ethiopia. The medrek strong man Seye's personality is similar to Mengistu. Like Mengistu he simply wants to rule Ethiopia with force. He simply doesn't like the Ethiopian people but loves the territorial land of Ethoiopia. Many Oromiyans believe he has comitted crime in Oromiya when he was defence minister. It is believed that the other EPRDF officials fired him from his post and stopped him from committing more crime. Even if it seems Medrek has some support from vocal chauvinists they don't have support among many Ethiopians including Oromiyans and Tigryans. Because we don't want to be ruled back by derg like ant democrat elements. Last week he made interwiew with private newsparer in addis he brags how strong fighter he was and is willing to consult other countries how to build an army and to win war. However anaother private peper commented Seye " field jacket lebso sikofes jegna yehone yimeslewal" The paper further pointed that Seye was behind in caves while other heroes such as Hayelom, Samora were in the front fighting the enemy. Personally I don't expect much hope from Medrek who is led and pushed to wrong desicion by corrupt and greedy individuals such as Seye.
Seye zerbabi should be told who he is.
Posted by: Tsegay | November 4, 2009 07:19 PM
Unlike Seye and Gebru who who are serving the enmies of Tigray, i have much respect to the Teweldes and Tsadkans who made it clear to Seye and Gebru that they would never side with the historical enmemies of Tigryans no matter how they differ with the other group. Seye and Gebru are losers
Posted by: Hailay | November 4, 2009 07:30 PM
There is no difference between Dr. Merara Gudina & Dr.Birahanu Nega.Both have the same mission.They want to creat problems in Ethiopia by any means.They all dream for power not for the benefit of Ethiopians.
Posted by: Homer | November 4, 2009 07:56 PM
Who is MEDERK? Do you mean MEDREK? You are seak about it i know!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any ways what ever you say about it you and your EPRDF is a defeated and deayed party!!! BEKUMU YEMOTE!! KEBARI AYATAM!! You are here to do that!!!
Posted by: yohaness | November 4, 2009 09:28 PM
This is time for meles zenawi to leave from power!! enough is enought we Tigrayan people are dispoint because the way he act and sport is just for eritrea good i never ever see him doing anygood thing for tigray or all ethiopia. I hate meles zenawi. I hope some chenge come in may 2010!!!
Posted by: zeresenay | November 4, 2009 09:55 PM
Hailay,
From where do you get that information that Tewelde and Sadikan are not in the political play? You have to be sure first whether Tewelde or others are not involved in anyway. Who is by theway the enemy of Tigray? Isn't Meles doing the same thing? Isn't Meles doing the same thing with korakur amharu the likes of Lidetu, Hailu Shawel, Addisu Legese et al.....? Don't bark men, we need reformers. So TPLF either should be reformed or dismantled in short. We don't have time to talk with Shabians.We need natinalist democrats. Period.
Posted by: Tibebe-brhan | November 4, 2009 09:55 PM
Tsegay:
If you want to know Siye, go and ask to his comarades or read some history books the likes of Gahhdi and Seber Gahdi not Tsin'at. So you will get when 'Siye' retreated two times from Adwa and Adi-de'aro operations. Then you can talk either abou Meles or about Siye.
Posted by: Tibebe-brhan | November 4, 2009 10:01 PM
Dear Editor
I would like from the start to express that I am a passionate supporter of a peaceful resolution of Ethiopia's political probblem. I applause the parties that signed the latest agreement on the comming ellection. Peaceful rsolution won't come through a rigid attitude and Piously sure of one's own righteousness both from the party in power and the opposition parties. medrek should be encouraged to join the groupe and the party in power should do all in its power to accommodate the grievances filed by Medrek. The Ethiopian people wins a lot if the agreement becomes all inclusive. EPRDF shold encourage the government to " FREE BIRTUKUAS and other political prisoners". Meles is expected to prov his leaership skill by taking the extra step and freeing Birtikuan.
the parties and leaders of Medrek are not new to politics. Two of the parties have participated in all the 3 ellections in Ethiopia and some of medrek's leaders have been leading and high officials in TPLF. We don't have to look for lame excuses to blame them for not participating in the agreement. There is a problem to be addressed an let us focus on that. Thankyou.
Posted by: Selam lehulu | November 4, 2009 11:24 PM
Selam Aiga!!
I would like to express my feelings towards the election. With out the participation of MEDREK no one believes the election is true election.Therefore PM Meles has to make history forever in democratizing Ethiopia by including MEDEREK. PM Meles you have to a bold enough to make history .Otherwise history will remember you as history blender.
Posted by: Anonymous | November 5, 2009 01:07 AM
HI Aiga
BIRDS WITH THESAME FEATHER FLY TOGETHER !!!!
This is what is happening now in democratizing
Ehiopia with the four parties in election. Please for the sake of this hungry Ethiopian people let us make a ture election this year. Enough is Enough. We are still hungry people. Shame on our leaders. Greedy and corrupt leaders makes their couontry and people always hungry. And hungry people are always angry. So to have a true election let us include MEDREK !!!
Posted by: Anonymous | November 5, 2009 01:26 AM
May I explain what MEDREK means.M-money collectors,E-enemy of political organizations,D-dictatorship,R-reflecting bad ideas,E-eager to hold power,K-key of Derg.By the way,the chairman Dr.Merara Gudina is aggressive & the adviser ato Siye Abreha is arogant.So, what do we expect from these men & their followers.
Posted by: Homer | November 5, 2009 02:25 AM
Unless MEDREK learn a lesson from this historical event and changes their behaviour their fate will be disappearing like Kiniget.
Anyway Medrek's leading figures are a bunch of recycled politicians without political motto.
bye for now
Posted by: melbournian | November 5, 2009 02:32 AM
O! aiga??
Leave him alone!! you cowards!
Seye is our Hero!! like Tedros,Yohnnes,Alula and Hayelom he loves his country Ethiopia.
Posted by: Anonymous | November 5, 2009 02:58 AM
To Homer and melbournian !
You won't achive anything by insulting people i Medrek. the same could be said about some peole in EPRDF but that doesn't bring any solution to the proble in hand. What you need here is a rational and a posetiv thinking. Things are never black and white. "Medrek is always wrong and EPRDF is always right" won't work in politics. The wisdom and will to compromise and a find a solution that pleases all is what makes people great especialy in crisis. EPRDF is the party in power and can solve this problem by just relesing Birtukuan and that is not a big price to pay for peace.
A friendly adive - Try to be objectiv and address the issue in question with out personal assasination.
Posted by: Selam lehulu | November 5, 2009 03:06 AM
Guys those who are furious & haters are one of those who packed to go back home in the 2005 election resigned from the good job that they had following their empty ego diaspora politician but their dream never come true,their life messed up because of their wrong decision... it is all your fault Mr Girma Kassa! once you went wrong you couldn't get an exit. your way will always get you wrong,that's why you are ranting non stop.
Mr girma Kassa, your Medrek is a political toy as long as they refuse to sign the code of conduct. who the fuck are they they want only to negotiate with EPRDF? this is a democratic order & every & each who runs for election must be included. that's why the Kilils are there in place! a stronger form of Ethiopian unity not a unity that exploits the Nations,Nationalities & people of Ethiopia,dod you get it man?
Posted by: Yasin | November 5, 2009 05:21 AM
Selam lehulu,isn't it wrong to try to ignore other parties? Medrek is requesting to negotiate about the code of conduct only with EPRDF!how about the small parties? how about the individuals who represent some small communities? it is a democratisation time & we need to follow a democratic order for more or less.don't you think so?
Posted by: Yasin | November 5, 2009 05:28 AM
Dear Yasin !
No one should be ignored, big or small. Nobody should be favoured over the others. That I say loud and clear. But i still emphasise that EPRDF has a greater resposibility as a party that holds power in Ethiopia to go the extra mile and make compromises. " FREE Birtukan and other politcal prisoners". WE shall then press Medrek to join the others in the agreement with out any precondition. That is what I call give and take. thank you for your oppinion.
Posted by: Selam lehulu | November 5, 2009 06:06 AM
Dear Homer !
This is extremly annoying and difficult time. You should be serious and focus on problem solving. Your explanation of MEDREK could be funny but not serious. We won't all parties to come together in signing the document. Allow me to ask you certain Q:
What is wrong with money collection as long as money is not collected by force? Aren't people allowed to oppose or for that matter hate politcal organisations in a free country ? What is your measuring stick for bad ideas ? could it be your own opinion? EAGER TO HOLD POWER, Would there be any other purpose or desired result in bilding a party ? Is it not to take power ? KEY OF DERG; My frien DDERG is dead and buried. Don't bring derg here to evade addressing the main issue.
Posted by: Selam lehulu | November 5, 2009 06:36 AM
Just I want to say a single word to Aiga.
"Cadre Hade Eznu"
Posted by: Anonymous | November 5, 2009 10:39 AM
Selam Ato Zeru:
Thanks for your comment. Allow me to write few items regarding what you have said. You write “ Ato Girma, Long time ago you told us in many ways if the government release the jailed kinjit leader all will be okay and you may even support EPRDF in many ways. The leaders were pardon and released. What did you do then? “
Yes, I did say I may support the EPRDF. However it was conditional. If EPRDF get a sea outlet to Ethiopia, if they reverse the divisive ethnic politics ….I could have supported them. I even mentioned the article of Paul Henze and comment of Samuel gebru that called the EPRDF to shy away from ethnic politics.
After they released prisoners, I am sure you remember also that I have even called that the bashing of the weyane be ended. I was encouraged by the development until Birtukan is barbarically arrested. Since then things are getting worse.
Please refer to my latest article on abugida, for AIGA refuse to post it.
Saying, allow me to ask you one question ? Why are you guys linking everyone to Berhane nega and G7 ? Are you afraid of them or what’s going on ? Aiga your website is not posting our articles. Otherwise you would have know our commitment to peaceful struggle and would not have made a big mistake in linking us to G7. Please gather facts. Stop being confused !!!!
Regarding Birtukan Mideksa, I am not spending time explaining to you. Either you are writing being told to write what you are writing, or you have no clues about the law of the land. Please refer to freebirtukan.org and inform yourselves about the facts first before you discuss with me about this.
By the way Ato Zeru, by arresting her you have made her a national hero and a very prominent individual. Birtukan Mideksa even has many, many supporters from within the rank and file of EPRDF. You don’t know she has many admirers from even within the leadership. So brother Zeru, if you are an ardent supporters of EPRDF, then do good things for EPRDF. Work hard for the release of Birtukan. The longer Birtukan is in jail, the deeper will be the polarization of the country which will ultimately destroy the EPRDF itself.
Thanks.
Posted by: Girma Kassa | November 5, 2009 02:23 PM
well done Medrek. Had EPRDF been serious enough, they would have been willing to address what is asked by Medrek.
Posted by: chale Alemneh | November 5, 2009 03:49 PM
Selam Ato Getachew:
Thanks for your civil comment. Yes I did say the following:“When we celebrate Fassika let us remember that the freedom we need to get is not necessarily from the dictatorial and ethnocentric policies of the EPRDF. What we need is to be free from ourselves. We are our own enemy. If we clean up our mess and come together as one force and if we take off the clothes of fear, forcing the current regime of Meles Zenawi to respect the will of the people would have been a cakewalk. We were not able to deliver the release of our great leaders and get our freedom not because Meles Zenawi and his cadres are strong. It is because we are divided and imprisoned by FEAR.”
What I am doing is not begging Meles Zenawi. It is convincing Melesm Zenawi. Since Ato Hailu Shawel has access to Meles, he can make the case with civility that it is important for all of us if he releases Birtukan immediately. That is not begging !!!!!!!
By the way I am not against AEUP. I was against some of the actions of Ato Hailu when he was here. I rejected when he suspended Birtukan Mideksa and the other 4 Kinijit delegates.
Also please be advised I have nothing to do with G7 or any armed groups. In fact I wrote many articles critical against teh action of G7. I always support the peaceful struggle back home.
THAT IS WHY I AM PUSHING FOR BIRTUKAN MIDEKSA TO BE RELEASE BECAUSE HER ARREST IS NOT ONLY ARRESTING ONE PERSON, BUT ALSO THE PEACEFUL STRUGGLE. IT IS ARRESTING THE CHANCE FOR ETHIOPIANS TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE COMING ELECTION AND THE HOPE TO SEE A PEACEFUL TRANSITION. It will create an atmosphere of fear, recrimination and despair in our country. It will polarize further our country. Mind you what Ato Hailu did would not have faced big opposition had Birtukan not jailed.
I have also pushed hard and called for the rapprochement of AEUP and UDJ. So Ato Getachew I am not against AEUP.
As to the current agreement. I am not against it in principle. I cannot accept it now because I believe it is only a paper and not genuine. How could I consider it as genuine when Birtukan is in jail and many are harassed ? You see I want an agreement that is based on truth, honesty and ethipiawi chewanet.
Regards
GK
Posted by: Girma Kassa | November 5, 2009 04:47 PM
I liked it. So much useful material. I read with great interest.
Posted by: Kouba | November 5, 2009 05:06 PM
Ato Girma,
If Birtukan has become a hero then all must be okay for her supporters since heroes are liked!,in my neck of the wood we like heroes(Smile man, if you can!)
On a serious note, what law are you talking about? Is it the law that says anyone who willingly break his/her pardon oath will be held accountable?
You also eluded that EPRDFites like Birtukan! What does that mean? Are you telling us EPRDF has anything to do with Birtukan jailing? If so aren't you glad you have not signed the code of conduct agreement! If you were, you would be breaking the agreement for you are willfully undermining the constitutional court for political gain.
In Ethiopia, Mr Kassa! people are free and only the court can put some one in jail. Even the police have only 48 hours to hold some one in custody without the court knowing.
So I know you think little of EPRDF endeavor to democracy and the building of institutions but
trust- you-me, Ethiopia is not what used to be your mama’s and papa’s of yesteryear....Teqeblenatal wondime..atedkem!!!
Posted by: Zeru Hagos | November 5, 2009 05:38 PM
By GETACHEW REDA:
Selam Ato Girma:
Thanks again. Let me quote you and let us go on from that; - You said-
What I am doing is not begging Meles Zenawi. It is convincing Melesm Zenawi. Since Ato Hailu Shawel has access to Meles, he can make the case with civility that it is important for all of us if he releases Birtukan immediately. That is not begging !!!!!!!”
Okay, let me take the word “begging” back and my expression was different than I and you think- my apology. But, let me go then with your above quote. You are asking Hailu Shaul to make the release of Bertukan . He did before any one asked him. I already said “not only for her, but he has asked as part of his negotiation to release others included. Bertukan is not exceptional. All Ethiopians who are in jail. Disappeared…etc… are all political prisoners. I am still surprised by you and others why they/you stress only on Bertukan. There is only one thing that you still made a mistake by slandering the leader of a big party AEUP/Hailu Shaul as he is a puppet of Meles Zenawi by saying “Ato Hailu Shawel has access to Meles,” Such phrase to me indicates that Hailu Shaul is now at the hand of Meles/ or Meles is now under the hand of Hailu. It is simply not nice phrase to use. Hialu is an opposition. Hailu has no access to Meles. Let us leave that way. If he has an access it is the negotiation table on which UDJ (Bertuka’s party) refuse to have the same opportunity. If you think Hailu as an ample access to Meles then you need to blame UDJ “for not taking the same advantage” (if you do not interpret his negotiation as Meles’s puppet- than you need to blame Bertukan’s people for refusing to have the access with such opportunity to release her- if he has the access- you are saying). Other wise, it is an insult.
The second thing I need to quote you is that you sad:-
“As to the current agreement. I am not against it in principle. I cannot accept it now because I believe it is only a paper and not genuine. How could I consider it as genuine when Birtukan is in jail and many are harassed? You see I want an agreement that is based on truth, honesty and ethipiawi chewanet.”
First of all, as I said over and over, this demand of Bertukan alone is simply betraying other thousands of prisoners. I want you to demand for all political prisoners as AEUP negotiators did. The other thing is you can’t call the negotiation a genuine if Bertukan is in jail, and you will call it genuine if she is released, - is still unfair to the rest of the thousand of prisoners (farmers, workers, students,all sort of people) expecting you to call their release in their behalf. There is no genuine agreement from a tyrant every where you go. There is no such “agreement based on truth”. There is no Ethiopiwi Chewanet in the gun of TPLF’s nature. You can’t expect /demand from a system that land lock Ethiopia (big crime!) to show Ethiopiawi chewwante. Let us simply take its nature as nice guy- but not as reliable nice guy and fight from there. There is no such word “Truth” you are looking for in the field of power leaving to the people in TPLF’s nature. But, generally, we believe TPLF is not a group of truth and unreliable for the nation’s safety. Some once truth is some ones wrong and some ones wrong is some ones right. That is exactly why there is a conflict. Therefore, in order to come to term of understanding you force the powerful sector (the sector that has gun on your head and money on his hand) and the weaker sector to the table of talk what ever means you have at your possession. You see, when I asked the politicians out their option is if they oppose Hailu’s signing code of conduct- ( as you do not like it- because Bertukan is not released)- they said as you said earlier “BOYCOTT”!!!!!! And I asked all of you to tell us how is this Boycott” going to be implemented and who will lead the “boycott”. I ask can those people including your self go to the land where the boycott is effective to participate/lead? No one gave me the answer yet. Some even told me on my discussion today with people “to boycott the election and let TPLF/EPRDF rule” I ask why. They said to “it is not going to be fair election”. And their option is what? To with drew from it and “let TPLF continue do its injustice”. Is this an option? You see TYPLF can sign any thing you want. But, no one is sure how real it is going to implemented it. It has some excellent things in its amendment. But, is TPLF abide by it? No. there is credible thing in a system of tyranny. You can add all the legal phraseology, the integrity, - when the real fight started “the strong man will bite the new strong man‘s ear as Mick Tyson did to Holyfield. There is no guarantee that TPLF also will reverse its integrity, concession, promise when it sees the people are going for the opposition. It is been that way and is going to be. So no legal agreement is guaranteed under a tyranny. To conclude for bad or good ‘the bargain table is the center of a table drama (that is the option for now. We have no gun, you are defeated, we are hostage- what do you do to get out of the hand of the hostage taker? Bargaining!!!! And I want you to support AEUP than to advice boycott. Because, no one guaranteed us the boycotting is going to work without one holding legal ground to boycott. It is fair and reasonable to boycott after the table drama is over and go to the action than simply “boycott where you have no office to call your supporters how to do it. Thanks Brother Girma Kassa. Getachew Reda www. Ethiopiansemay.blogspot.com
Posted by: GETACHEW REDA | November 5, 2009 07:36 PM
Whatever bad the dishonest opposition are writing now about Hailu is true. But it doesn't mean they didn't know that when he was whom they adored as the only Ethiopian and their representative. They knew that very well and they kept it to themselves as far as he stood for their interest. This simply shows how corrupt the extreme opposition are themselves.
Posted by: Ekichu | November 5, 2009 08:18 PM
It makes sense for MEDREK not to join the dialogue if the discussions do not lead, at least partially, to meet its strategic objectives. It should not expect to get full satisfactions but meeting the minimum needed. The agreement signifies a clear distinction between two distinct political opinions/stands and clears the way for fruitful and sensible dialogues or whatever, between the EPRDF camp representing the four (and may be more) camp and MEREK the other camp representing at least the 8 parities. This helps the people to look clearly and decided who is with the truth and the real democratic order and who is not. I see it like making a vote willingly to make a choice how to proceed with the democratization of the country. If MEDREK decided in the future to enter the election, it will be a contest between the two camps not much of others, I don’t mean undermining other parties, but saying the choice is not as such about the specific ideas of parties or personalities as such but clearly it will a choice between who is siding with EPRDF and who is not. Please refer to the 2005 election.
Posted by: Simyelesh | November 5, 2009 08:44 PM
Simyeneh !
Your conclusion, that the contest in the Ethiopian election will be between EPRDF and Medrek, is rather surprising but also wishful thinking. It is not we Ethiopians in the diaspora who are going to participate in the election. the Ethiopian people are politcaly ripe and conscious way beyond our expectation and they might surprise us by the election result in May. The two major parties that contributed most in the peaceful struggle are cosignatories of the code of conduct and the Ethiopian peole know well their contributions over the years. So don't be so sure of Medrek to be a major and decisive factor in the election. I wish Medrek wil join the process and prov me wrong.
Otherwise taking part in the election has nothing to do with siding EPRDF or not. It is a Q of being commited to the peaceful strugel that has started in Ethiopia a decade ago. For those who expect a quick fix has the peaceful strugel started and ended in the past ellection. My friend peaceful strugel is frustreting, time and enegy consuming and protracted. Thanks to God that we,in Ethiopia, have parties that are commited to that line of strugel how hard and tiering the going is.
Posted by: Selam lehulu | November 5, 2009 10:38 PM
The "Shocking" Hand Shake: Anti-thesis Of The Mid-solution?!
Few days back a surprising and "shocking" news came out of the empire, i.e the hand shake of
the Weyane Tigrai hergemonist Meles Zenawi with the Amhara conservative unitarist Hailu Shaul.
What do these two persons have in common? Why did the hand shake happen? Why was it
surprising for most Ethiopians in general and "shocking" for Amharas in particular? Did the Oromo
factor played certain role for the hand shake to happen? What is the relation of this hand shake
to the hitherto attempts made to achieve the necessary compromise between Amhara
democratic forces and Oromo federalist movements in a formation of the recent alliance aka
Medrek?
Looking back to the history of the empire in the last about 150 years, Amhara and Tigrai elites
used to compete on the issue, who will be the domination force? Till 1991, Amhara elites were
the dominating, whereas Tigrai elites had the junior role of cooperating for common benefit. Both
have used to oppress and exploit Oromo people in particular and all oppressed nations in the
empire in general. Since 1991 they exchanged their role, so that Tigrai elites became the
dominating force and Amhara elites adapted to play the junior role, and yet both elite groups are
prospering at the cost of the oppressed nations.
Now the struggle of the oppressed nations is slowly getting a momentum and all nations
including the currently subjugated Amhara poors are now trying to come together to challenge
the ruling Tigrean elites and struggle also against the few cooperating Amhara and Oromo elites,
who are still benefiting from the system. The main goal of the struggle of Oromo nation being led
by OLF and that of other oppressed nations is to get rid of the Nefxenya system of domination
(domination by using Nefx or gun). For oppressed nations, the 21st century Tigrean Nefxenya is
not different from the 20th century Amhara Nefxenya.
The 21st century and modern Nefxenyas could rule over Ethiopian people in the last 18 years,
specially by using the devide and rule method. They could manage to sow a discord among
Amhara democratic forces, who are pro Ethiopian unity and Oromo freedom fighters, who are pro
liberty of nations. These two pro unity and pro liberty forces fought each other, so that Weyane
could rule with out facing any cooperated and coordinated challenge from the two BIG nations.
Thanks to the farsighted OLF leaders and some representatives of Amhara democrats, certain
discussion was going on for the last few years on the issue of how to find a common
denominator to forge an alliance and fight against the fascist Weyane. They tried to look at the
two virtues as the strong side of the two nations respectively. Being pro unity is the strong side
of Amhara democratic forces and being pro liberty is the strong side of Oromo liberation fronts.
Both tried to reconcile these two important virtues, so that it might be possible to achieve both
national liberty and regional (Ethiopian) unity. This effort showed good results by forging AFD in
2006 and now by forming Medrek. These two alliances are in which Amhara democratic forces
and Oromo freedom fronts could come together. These were the two very shocking news for
Weyane facsists.
Now pro-democracy and pro-freedom forces both at home and in diaspora are coming together
on a common denominator of struggling for freedom and democracy in the region called Ethiopia.
Amhara democrats started to recognize the God-given right of Oromo nation to self-
adminstration and autonomy, Oromo freedom fighters have started to say: "if there will be no
Abesha domination, there will be no necessity of Oromo liberation in a sense of secession". That
is why Medrek was forged as a compromise and good Midpoint solution based on a
predetermination by elites to fix the conflict between Abesha and Oromo. Of course the Endpoint
solution will be the confirmation of Medrek's position by self-determination of each concerned
nation, which seems to be the position of AFD.
Both the above mentioned solutions (that of Medrek and that of AFD) are the anti-dotes against
the 20th century Nefxenyaa, for which Ato Hailu Shaul and co are nostalgically longing and
against the 21st century Nefxenya lead by Aite Meles Zenawi. So the common view of the two
Nefxenyas is their anti-democracy and anti-freedom position. Now we can see that the
"shocking" hand shake of the two men is a symbol of cooperation of two dictators against the
emergence of the very constructive pro-democracy and pro-freedom alliance aka Medrek.
Mederek with its potential is the good challenge against Weyane fascists, if the next election will
be really free and fair. It is cristal clear that Weyane will never allow it to be as such, so that the
other option would be the struggle by all means as G-7 and OLF are trying to do. Now there is a
probability for Amhara democrats in diaspora rallying behind G-7, EPPF and EPRP to forge a new
alliance similar to AFD with freedom fighters likle OLF, ONLF and SLF, all to be helped by Eritrea
against the fascist regime in Finfinne.
Weryane is now under immense pressure from Medrek at home, from pro-democracy forces in
diaspora, from famine in Ethiopia, from international community and of course from Eritrean
government. Being under such dire situation, the hegemonist Meles now got a saving hand
shake from the unitarist Hailu Shaul, who seems to be with obsolete mentality. It is fact that
Hailu Shaul does have a support of a lot of Amharas, who are emotionally attached to him, not
based on reason, but just based on false Ethiopian patriotism. I hope they will slowly and surely
get the true color of this dictator and that they will opt for the genuine and lasting solution as
pro-democracy Amharas in UDJ and G-7 are trying to do. The only lasting solution is union of all
antions in the empire based on self-determination.
To answer the questions I raised at the beginning:
- The two dictators have in common the purpose of opposing any movement for freedom and
democracy for they know that the realization of these two virtues means an end to both
Nefxenya systems.
- The hand shake happened now in order to save Abesha system of domination, in which both
Amhara Nefxenya elites and Tigrai Nefxenya elites used to prey on the oppressed nations like
Oromo. They are on their last attempt of saving the system not to be destroyed by all pro-
democracy and pro-freedom forces (including Amhara and Tigrai democrats).
- The hand shake was surprising for all Ethiopians because of Ato Hailu's and his friends like Dr
Taye's hitherto arrogance and their show not to have any relation with Weyane; it was
"shocking" for Amharas for it made them to be seen as boot lickers of Weyane. The picture of Ato
Hailu bowing so low to the feet of Aite Meles is very humiliating for the supporters of Ato Hailu to
say the least.
- Of course Oromo factor played an immense role for the hand shake. Conservative Amharas like
Ato Hailu used to believe and they still believe that "it is better to be ruled by Tigreans for 100
years than to be ruled by Oromo for 1 day". They know that true democracy and freedom means
appropriate share of power for Oromo people. This group does have more fear from Oromo in
power than from Tigrean in power. So the hand shake can be perceieved as that of the two
Nefxenyas not to leave Oromia free from their exploitation and oppression. It is a symbolical
agreement to continue their system of domination, be it Amhara Nefxenya or Tigrai Nefxenya in
Finfinne palace.
- The hand shake is simply put the anti-thesis of the cooperation of Abesha democratic forces
and Oromo freedom fighters in Medrek and in AFD in order to forge a common home in that
region based on democracy, equality, freedom and justice. It seems Weyane is trying to lure
certain Amhara forces away from forging such an allinace with Oromo fronts. If the hand shake
succeeds, then Weyane's devide and rule between Amhara forces and Oromo fronts will revive
again.
Now the devide of the political camps in the empire is slowly becoming clear: dictators and fascist
Nefxenyas on one side, whereas democrats and freedom fighters on the other side. Weyane
with its molls like Lidetu, Ayele and Hailu being in the first group, while Medrek with its pro-
democracy supporters at home and in diaspora in the second group.
What is the implication of the hand shake on Oromo liberation movement. It depends on the
definition we do give for the word liberation. If it is liberation in the sense of the status quo as
OPDO people try to convice us, then the hand shake is good to keep it. If liberation meanse self-
determination in the form of Oromian autonomy in Ethiopian context like what Oromo federalists
in Medrek want to realize, then the hand shake is against it. If we mean liberation is self-
determination leading to Oromian independence, be it within a union or without a union of
nations in the empire/region, the hand shake is almost similar to the hand shake of Hitler with
Mussoloni to subjugate the free world. Simply put the hand shake is the anti-thesis of the
alliances like Medrek and it helps Weyane to secure its power further for at least the next 5
years based on its method of devide and rule. The only question to be answered is, did Ato Hailu
this intentionally being the "smart Weyane supporter" or did he the job unintentionally being the
" stu*pid anti-Weyane", who is just naively instrumentalized by the canning fox!!
Posted by: Fyou | November 5, 2009 11:21 PM
Aiga Forum
I read your short notice about the 50 parties accepting to participate in the discussion concerning the code of conduct signed by the four parties. Well that is good news. However I would like to maek two comments on your notice.
1. the signed paper alone won't make the election fair and peaceful. it all dependes on how EPRDF, the party that controlls the police and the army, behaves in abiding to the text of the agreement. Based on our past experience, I wouldn't be surprised if people become suspicious an dcotious concerning EPRDF's coming action. it is here that meles and his party has a great responsibility. Come what may, win or lose in the ellection, he should stick to the agremment this time and prov to the Ethiopian people that he intends to make the election fair. Otherwise he shall prov to the peole once again that staying in power is what is important for him and not hte Ethiopian peole.
2. You are trying to associate G7 with Medrek with no feasible evidence to prov that. Such tactics have previosly been used by Lenin, Stalin, Enver H., the dictators of the East. it won't work now. You need to justify your statements by evidences.
Posted by: Selam lehulu | November 5, 2009 11:34 PM
Americans CIA must have known what is going on about Meles and his gang groups. In 1975 EC, during previous famine while his own Tigre People were dying of famine, Zenwaii Meles and his gang group stolen USD $100,000,000 relief funds given by sir Bob Goldof band and deposited in their personal account, On top that Several millions dollars collected from relief food sold to Sudan commercials. The money was distributed among Sebat Nega, Zenwai Meles, Seyum Mesfin (foreign Minster of Ethiopia), Arike Tsebaay, Birhanu G/Christos, Abadi Zemu and others. (Source is from one of the TPLF founder)The participants and dealers are Tsehay Temalew, Giday Faro, Akililu Ala, Mulu W, T/hiemanot, Mohamed Mubarak, Roman G/ Selasse, Samuel G/M, Negash Tekelu, Mebrat Beyanhe and Negash Nan.The business empires owned by TPLF and The source of EFFORT CORP Billions Dollars worth of money are stolen money from starving Ethiopian people. Let alone running free and fare election to establish democracy, TPLF had/have been committing genocide on Ethiopian people which the western countries choose to ignore. How can someone in normal state mind except rule of law, democracy, and Free and fare election from group of gang stars? What does it mean when business/Economy in Ethiopia is booming, when millions are starving? The gang group are accumulating money while people dying!!!Can you see America? That is what American tax payers are money is for!!!!
Posted by: Danywell | November 5, 2009 11:35 PM
Mr Girma Kassa,I think Ms,Birtukuans case is a legal means. we all know the reality of her case.she signed asking for pardon,then she denied her signature & once she denied she needed to serve her original sentence,why are we dragging ourselves back? either she was supposed to stick to her belief brom the beginning or must acknowledge the mercifullness of EPRDF gov't.the favoratism have long gone in its place we are working day & night to put our country in order. as a person there shouldn't be any compromise with Medrek because they walked out of the discussion. what the fuck do they want to solve? Ethiopia needs a party that can have enough patience than that of Medrek. I think Medrek is simply a political toy for Ethiopia & it is worthless.Ethiopia needs a leadership that can stay 24 hours on duty like the EPRDFites not an individual who whispers with Ethiopia's enemies & walk away to solve her problems. They should have been learnt from KINIJIT!
Posted by: Anonymous | November 6, 2009 04:03 AM
Mr Girma Kassa,I think Ms,Birtukuans case is a legal means. we all know the reality of her case.she signed asking for pardon,then she denied her signature & once she denied she needed to serve her original sentence,why are we dragging ourselves back? either she was supposed to stick to her belief brom the beginning or must acknowledge the mercifullness of EPRDF gov't.the favoratism have long gone in its place we are working day & night to put our country in order. as a person there shouldn't be any compromise with Medrek because they walked out of the discussion. what the fuck do they want to solve? Ethiopia needs a party that can have enough patience than that of Medrek. I think Medrek is simply a political toy for Ethiopia & it is worthless.Ethiopia needs a leadership that can stay 24 hours on duty like the EPRDFites not an individual who whispers with Ethiopia's enemies & walk away to solve her problems. They should have been learnt from KINIJIT!
Posted by: Yasin | November 6, 2009 04:04 AM
I appreciate EPRDF for the effort made. but still there are things to be done . Hailu shawol is not much accepted by the people and he felt dependency syndrum and join it. people from medrek and out side has to be adressed especially the main problem creater during the 1997 was hailu shawol when dr Birhanu was willing to join and accept everything. so consider that. the people who get signed here are not influencial and in the heart of the people. they are rejected. what we have to do for real democratization is to approach Dr birhanu
Posted by: abebe alemayehu | November 6, 2009 04:12 AM
Selam Ato Getachew: I am enjoying discussing the discussion. I think we are not far away from each other regrding basic issues of our country.
Let me quote what you wrote and give you some of my rebuttal. You said " You are asking Hailu Shaul to make the release of Bertukan . He did before any one asked him. I already said “not only for her, but he has asked as part of his negotiation to release others included. Bertukan is not exceptional. All Ethiopians who are in jail. Disappeared…etc… are all political prisoners. I am still surprised by you and others why they/you stress only on Bertukan. There is only one thing that you still made a mistake by slandering the leader of a big party AEUP/Hailu Shaul as he is a puppet of Meles Zenawi by saying “Ato Hailu Shawel has access to Meles,”
1. When I say he has "access to Meles" I do not mean he is a puppet to Meles. I am just recognizning that he has opportunity to directly discuss any issue with Ato Meles, something that is beneficial.
2. Birtukan Mideksa is a prisoner. When we focus on Birtukan Mideksa it is not because we do not care other political prisoners. However I do not see Birtukan Mideksa only as a political prisoner. Birtukan Mideksa issue is more than that. The arrest of Birtukan Mideksa has imprisoned the peaceful struggle. It has imprisoned the hope to have a free and fair election. Personally if she stays in prison for one to year, physically she may sustain the pain. However, the political atmosphere will be very uggly and we will all be heading to further polarization. Particularly with the coming election we have a very open opportunity to come together and move our country forward. If the coming election is perceived by many as unfair and undemocratic then , foreigners may consider it as semi-democratic, but many Ethiopians will consider it as null, void and illegitimate.
So we have at least to make our people believe in the election so that there woud be huge turnout and can make history in May 2002 that once and for all bring out Ethiopia from its political crisis. TO DO THIS THE RELEASE OF BIRTUKAN MIDEKSA IS SYMBOLICALLY VERY IMPORTANT.
That is why we are pushing hard for her release. That is why we want MEdrek, AEUP, EDP et all so that they can personally bring the issue of Birtukan at the table. BY NO MEANS are we putting aside other prisoners.
I hope you will understand where we are coming from. We are doing this not only for ther sake of Birtukan Mideksa but for teh sake of Peace, and prospperity in Ethiopia. We are doing this so that the polarization and recrimination would subside in our country.
3. Regarding boycotting the election, my opinion is that we need to be abale to run for election as much as possible. I am sure UDJ and many more are all wiling to participate in the election. If they don't then they will cease to exist.
If Birtukan Mideksa is not released it is very difficult for UDJ to participate in teh election. It is not because Birtukan as a person is special. But it is because it shows that the election is not free and fair. Then what will happen to the UDJ, they will tell the people and do nothing. if the election is not free and fair AEUP and EDP ..all will be defeated. There will be another 5 years on absolute majority of EPRDF. The status quo will continue. Do you think thinks will stay as they were ? I doubt ....There will be chaos and civil wars.
That is why AEUP, EDP, UDJ and all must participate in the election and save our country from further bloodshed. That is why BIRTUKAN MIDEKSA MUST BE FREED, so that the UDJ can participate.
I hope the regime will listen and bow dodwn from its arroghant and blind politics.
Shaking Hailu Shawel alaone is not enough. Birtukan Mideksa has to be released NOW
Posted by: Girma Kassa | November 6, 2009 04:26 AM
Mr Girma Kassa,it was easier for Birtukuan to to follow & respect the rule of law that to suffer in prison like every criminal. Mr Girma If you can't understand Ms Bertukuans case,you don't know what you are talking about...
Posted by: yasin | November 6, 2009 04:31 AM
Dearrr abebe Alemayehu !
How would you know wether these people are influecial or not in Ethiopia. have you seen the pictures of EDP meeting in Awasa, Addis Abeba and Gonder ? I suppose no. You are probably som where in Europe or the US and listen to certain paltalk where certain frustreted people bark and complain almost in everthing and everybody. that is not how things work in Ethiopia. The Ethiopian peole knows well which one of the politcal parties are the ones who fought resolutly and with firm determination for a peaceful transition in the country.
Your other false statement is that you say that Berahnu was willing to join parliamenet. That is wrong my friend. Joining parliament was one of the major difference between him and Ledetu. Berhanu was outright againest that. Read his own book. My friend don,t use your immagination and wishful thinking as fact.
Posted by: Selam lehulu | November 6, 2009 04:50 AM
Again from GETACHEW REDA:
Selam Ato Girma;
You said;-
“The arrest of Birtukan Mideksa has imprisoned the peaceful struggle. It has imprisoned the hope to have a free and fair election.”
I do not think this is a rational ground to base Bertukan as a pillar cause to imprison the hope to have a free and fair election as you think Birtukan is the center of every hope. On your own eye- may be. Uncertainty is always there – be it Bertukan is released or not. Again and again let me make clear to you. Bertukan is not the only prisoner. There are many thousands of them languishing politicians who got arrested while they tried to established peaceful reconciliation. If Bertukan got released and then some others still stay in jail how that is this election is going to make it free and fair election?
As I said earlier- if TPLF released her- it will be nice and it will be taken as progressive and positive record for the ruling party. But, as I said earlier also- one can’t sit idle for chaos and war to release her from prison when , he r own party failed to negotiate skillfully and maturely to secure her release or to take advantage of the door to address her cause in front of the world after conducting the negotiation in a good will. You do not expect fair and free election (I said this before) from tyrant who love power. You use any opportunity to push the struggle forward. Chaos and war follows after you showed what you got to offer in a good faith of negotiation. One shouldn’t wait a tyrant to shut the door on you looking for every excuse. You can’t allow yourself installed in the middle of dark forest in order a lawyer to release some stupid legal trap for you. You think in a tyranny there will be no bias or it will be fair and free election. No. There is no such atmosphere, you move on with what you got (unfair- but that is what the status quo is – a hostage have only one opportunity- negotiation unless his army commando arrive at the spot to combat the battle and release him – but we do not have that luxury.). Bertukan be released now and doesn’t mean the election ids going to be fair and election. Releasing her is not the center of the negotiation. It is just part of it. Parties should participate in any means to get the higher target they want to achieve including “TAKING RISK ThAT GOES WITH IT”. Taking risk is part of the business. There will be killing and more arrest. Unfortunately- that is going to be the nature of tyranny group.
You said
“am sure UDJ and many more are all wiling to participate in the election. If they don't then they will cease to exist.”
I can’t say better than you said-
You said;-
“If Birtukan Mideksa is not released it is very difficult for UDJ to participate in the election.”
Here you go again! Contradicting your above rational statement. If not- “CHAO AND WAR WILL FOLLOW” is your prediction. After how long is this going to take place? Bertukan can be released, what if other prisoners are not going to be released- will UDJ refuse/withdrew from participating in the election? Please give me the answer for this I need it very bad.
You said:-
“not because Birtukan as a person is special. But it is because it shows that the election is not free and fair” As I said earlier- Bertukan is not the center of the negotiation. It simply is naïve to see her as the center of the election to go on or to boycott. It might be for few people, not for majority of us. Our case is not only prisoners, but the entire justice is abused. So you take one you get and move on to alert your supporters what to be done in this very tense atmosphere. Many people do not take here case as the central issue. There are many numbers of issues needed to be addressed. The country is landlocked. Is Birtukan’s arrest bigger issue than padlocking a nation? Are we going to say, we can’t go to the election until TPLF march its army to Eritrea to open the sea ports that is landlocked by TPLF conspiracy and participation? We have many bigger issues to address. But, when all fails – we can always claim ignorance. Ignorance and irrationality are powerful negation tools.
You said;-
“That is why AEUP, EDP, UDJ and all must participate in the election and save our country from further bloodshed. That is why BIRTUKAN MIDEKSA MUST BE FREED, so that the UDJ can participate.” What if Bertukan is released and others remain in jail? You believe there will not blood shade and chaos? If no, why not? thanks- Getachew Reda www.Ethiopiansemay.blogspot.com
Posted by: GETACHEW REDA | November 6, 2009 06:09 AM
Dear Ethiopians,
Let the drama in Ethiopia come to an end and the nation come together and work for one common goal.
I do not believe by any measure Ato Meles Zenawi will bring change to Ethiopia. We have learnt enough in the past 20 years. I can daresay Ethiopia is in desperate need of pure and genuine nationalists and these must exclude Ato Meles Zenawi, Lidetu, Shawl, Birhanu....
We need a new breed young patriotic Ethiopians who can listen to Ethiopians and who can work with 80 million people.
The above guys either directly or indirectly are dollies for foreigners. Who have no any vision of their own except to push and to boss to the 80 million people.
When I say this I am not condemning anyone. I have respect for any Ethiopian whether they are supporters of EPRDF or otheers parties. I am saying. We need new pure, brave, self-reliant, motivated, self-less Ethiopians who can put Ethiopia on board to propel it to the highest orbit of prosperity.
The political paradigm in Ethiopia is completely wrong and must not be allowed to reign Ethiopian in tethers any further.
1. We do not care about anyones democracy or we can have our own democracy that befits ours. These democracy game in Ethiopia is a drama play of Meles Zenawi to stay on power as much as he lives .
What is the election for while Ethiopia's interest have never been discussed and even raised as an issue.
First of all, why is Meles Zenawi still reigning Ethiopia? is he not the one who is paying one billion dollar to Djibouti a year while our people are dying of starvation? is he not the one who said recently our ports are like common table salt which can be bought like any item?
Young Ethiopians, including supporters of all parties, please do not destroy your country by allying and fanning parties who have no any vision for Ethiopia.
We do not care which Ethiopian becomes a leader as long as he or she does what the people wanted. Here what we have in Ethiopia is 80 million people held hostage by Meles Zenawi, foreign NGOS, foreign ambassadors, and ... foreign ambassadors are vying to control Ethiopian economy as one writer or ambassadors cited it, as long as Meles hand-over the Ethiopian telecom, he would not mind if Meles stays longer. Why should Meles stay on power because a foreign ambassador wishes to control Ethiopian banking system and telecom and other national assets?
Ethiopians, regardless your ethnic or your current political affiliation,.. wake up and work hard, think and do something for your country than surrendering to political vultures who are punishing Ethiopians.
Sooner or later Ethiopia will be freed from every misfortune by genuine Ethiopians.
Ato Meles Zenawi, we want you to step down sincerely. You need to step down. We do not need your democracy or your foreign ambassadors. We neither need your collection from any charity. We ask you politely to step down and give to someone who have the feeling for Ethiopia and Ethiopian. If you were democrat, why would you stay for 20 years in power? why would you chase your comrades?
your democracy is phoney simulacrum of western democracy for you to stay in power. Our people now needs food, clean water, and clean shelter. You are simulating our people with that. Our people needs to use the 1 billion dollar you are throwing away to feed themselves. I believe the more time Meles Zenawi stays the more damage he will do to Ethiopia.
Sooner or later, Ethiopian will rule. And truth will prevail over falsehood and Ethiopia will one day feed itself than living on the hand out Ato Meles Zenawi collects every year.
Real democracy from within Ethiopia, not by selling out Ethiopian land, people, national assets . Ethiopia is ruled now by NGOS, ambassadors. Ethiopia has not leader now.
Ato Meles Zenawi,do a favour to the 80 million people, please retire and go to your birth place and do some work for the rest of your life than wasting the lives of 80 million people and holding the nation hostage for these long time. Why cannot you give a chance to anyone even from your own party. we need change , it is so boring we have been talking about Ato Meles Zenawi for the past 20 years? why is that you do not give the power to other EPRDFS? why?
Mother Ethiopia.
Posted by: Gezaee H. | November 6, 2009 06:46 AM
Can somebody from "Mederk supporters" answer this question of mine please:
Why is it not possible for Medrek to discuss Birukan's case in the multi-party process by signing the code of conduct agreement?
Posted by: Tesfai | November 6, 2009 08:29 AM
I wish someone take all weyane(tigray) leaders off from ethiopia!!! our country!!
Posted by: yemeles geday | November 6, 2009 08:33 AM
Dear Yasin: You said
"Mr Girma Kassa,it was easier for Birtukuan to to follow & respect the rule of law that to suffer in prison like every criminal. Mr Girma If you can't understand Ms Bertukuans case,you don't know what you are talking about..."
Which law you are talking about? Is there any one who respect the rule of law in Ethiopia including TPLF? Isn't TPLF by itself that viaolates everything in the constitution and other supplmenary laws? 'Yigerm eyu Ayte Yasin'. Why TPLF couldn't allow Britukan to have access to her family, lawyer, friends..... and so on? Didn't the constitution allow her to do this all things? Plz see article 19 of Ethiopian constitution. Otherwise abtom zeyfeltu kedika atalilom....
Posted by: Tibebe-brhan | November 6, 2009 11:13 AM
Meles,please go away!! We have had enough of you!! You are lazy, ignorant,disobedient,unfaithful,inconfident,coward,,name it urself.I want to see the dream of my martyrs come true!!!!!!!!!!! It pains,,uuuuuffffffff.starving children,mothers in agony,dry land,shuttered dreams,land-locked nation on my eyesssssssss!! uuuufffffff. Heyy,,heroesss,heroinessssss,you determined peopleeeeee,WHERE ARE YOU????where are you Hayelom?where are you Samoraaaa?where are u gone Tsadkan???? where are you Siyeeeeee? what happened to you? you couldnt get a solution to my mother, my brother, my sister, my father? really?? if so, Ihate you!!!
Posted by: Sebagadis | November 6, 2009 12:08 PM
aiga
whey Meles is scared to resighn or give up power?
The answer is simple, b/c he scared that he will end up in jail for the rest of his life for the following reasns.
a. for making Ethiopia land locked .
b. for sighning the Algers treaty.
c. for sabotaging the Badme war. while our military was advancing by crushing enemy he ordered to stop the war after thousands of people are dying.
d. for killing children while they are on demonastration after the election of 2007.
e.for his divide and rule policy thousands of people have been divorced for their race differences.such as Amhara vs tigrai , oromo vs Amhara etc. until today Ethiopians have never meet together to solve their common problems b/c of divide and rule policy of Meles.
f. Meles is the right hand of Issays Afeworki
Just this are to mention few b/c of for this and other reasons Meles scared to leave power by true election. so he is like the donkey who bites the hyna(jib) will stick in powere for ever until it fails by itself. And also for invading Somalia and killed so many innocent children.
Posted by: Anonymous | November 6, 2009 12:46 PM
Selam Tesfai:
You asked "Can somebody from "Mederk supporters" answer this question of mine please:
Why is it not possible for Medrek to discuss Birukan's case in the multi-party process by signing the code of conduct agreement?"
Well, that is a good question. I think Medrek must unconditionally come to the negotiation. That is what I have been saying all along. Whether there is Lidetu or Chamisso ....who cares ? As long as the issue they want to discuss is disccussed they should quickly come to the negotiation and move forward.
I think UDjites must put on more pressure on Medrek in this regard. I just don't see the logic of not being part of a negotiation because of modalitities of not allowing certain groups to be in.
PS. by the way I am saying this as a supporter of UDJ and its political programs.
GK
Posted by: Girma Kassa | November 6, 2009 04:09 PM
Dear Selam Lehulu,
I am very glad that you gave attention to my comments.Whether you accept it or not,the goal of MEDREK & their supporters are to creat chaos in the country.Because they always refuse all ideas that are forwarded by other political organizations.What they are trying to do is that, they want to perform every thing by force like DERG.I know, DERG is dead & burried,but the ideas & principles of DERG are forwarded by the chairman Dr.Merara Gudina who was a DERG cadre & by the arogant adviser Ato Siye Abreha.It is as clear as crystal that Ato Siye Abreha was not a DERG.Even,his father & brother were killed by DERG.But now,may be he is paid ransom so that he is acting like a DERG.
So,dear Selam Lehulu you should realize that MEDREK is practcing what DERG was doing.They want also to repeat what had happen in 2005.By the way,do you understand what Ato Siye Abreha &Ato Gebru Asrat are doing.They are trying to get power by any means since they lost it due to their bad deeds in the EPRDF.I wish you all the best.
Posted by: Homer | November 6, 2009 06:34 PM
From Getachew Reda –
One more thing to all the UDJ supporters. If you thing a party called UDJ is going to be effectively negotiate with any one lead by Gizachew. Boy! You need to find you some one better, brighter than the fantasy preacher, arrogant, ignorant leader of this UDJ representative called Enj. Gizachew. He needs to be out of politics and do what ever his field allows him to contribute. If this fellow is going to be the next president (smile!), he will tell us you have no right to sue human abusers like the present leadership in Arena, and others who were burning our family with fire. Is this fellow sick or normal to tell us we have no right to take them to the court of law? What is the different between Meles's system and the upcoming UDJ's system, if he is going to dismiss our complaints against abusers and criminals? Spare me God! A sick man, I do not think such fellow will be able to secure Bertukan's release as long as this kind of brain is leading her case. Listen to him in Addis Dimts. He is dismissing people's complaints before he held power. Oh! Getachew Reda (Ethiopian Semay). I think Prof is right to say Gizachew lead group is dictatorial.
Posted by: GETACHEW REDA | November 6, 2009 07:16 PM
Dear Ato Girma !
I would like to make a remark conserning your opinion about the role of Birtukuan M. in Ethiopian politics and specifically her role in the coming ellection.
No doubt Birtikuan is now a political figure thanks to EPRDF's misstake of impresoning her. Otherwise she is the list known person in the Ethiopian politics. As you might know there is a big power strugel going on amongest the leading people in her party and we don't realy know what her role would have been in this strugel. I don't wanrt to speculate on that. One thing is sure. Her importance, popularity and influence will definitly increase if EPRDF insistes to keep her in prison. Ato Girma "I AM FOR HER RELEASE" and I want her to participate in the coming election not becouse i support her party but I want the Ethiopian people to have their say about MEDREK.
What bothers me is your conclusion that “The arrest of Birtukan Mideksa has imprisoned the peaceful struggle. It has imprisoned the hope to have a free and fair election". Allow me to disagree with your conclusion. It is far beyond the reality. the imprisonment of one individual, how influencial he or she is, or for that matter the dathe of one or more politcal leaders won't impreson a peaceful strugel. It is a process that goes on with many ups and downs and in the process many will be harased,impresond and even die. The hope of having a free and fair ellecrtion won't be based att all on her reales. That is in the hands of EPRDF and meles. In some cases the impresonment of a political leader might even intensify the peceful strugel like Mandela's imprisonment keept the South African strugel alive for decades. If Birtikuan is such a big and influencial leader is to be seen in time.
Posted by: Selam lehulu | November 6, 2009 11:26 PM
Dear Homer !
Dear friend ! I want from the start to assure you that I am not a supporter of Medrek ,not becouse they represent Derg's ideology, but I aknowledge that members and leaders of medrek have the full right to organise themselves and participate in all activities in Ethiopia including ellections. I don't agree with you that DERG as an ideologi still existes. But what if it existes? It si finnaly the Ethiopian peole that decides the outcome. let the Ethiopian peole give the judjment throug the ballet box. Medrek can't and I assume have no interest of solving problems in the country by force as you try to convince us. You know well that this peole are unarmed and made a pledge to use peaceful strugel as their only instrument. Otherwise they could have joined G7 ( God save us and Ethiopia!).
Remember they have the full right to disagree with all ideas others come with and that doesn't make them DERG or people who try to solv the Ethiopian problem by force.
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Posted by: Admin | November 7, 2009 03:56 AM
Dear Ato Getachew:
You wrote "“The arrest of Birtukan Mideksa has imprisoned the peaceful struggle. It has imprisoned the hope to have a free and fair election". Allow me to disagree with your conclusion. It is far beyond the reality. the imprisonment of one individual, how influencial he or she is, or for that matter the dathe of one or more politcal leaders won't impreson a peaceful strugel.".
I think it all depends on all how we define peaceful struggle. Usually I define peaceful struggle anything that does not involves killing. It may not be legal. So in that aspect you are right the peaceful struggle will not stop. However usually people call peaceful struggle the current peaceful struggle that is being waged to change the regime through election and legally. That "peaceful struggle" is arrested.
As to the hope to have a fair and free election, that is obvious. Free and fair election needs the involvement of peopple. Under the current circumstances if you talk about election people will laugh. They may go and vote, but that doesn't mean they support it. During Mengistu 's time everyone was voting. There were conseqwences for not voting. However this kind of election where people are votiong out of fear IS NOT A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION.
A free and fair election is when people are motivated to move or have teh option not to vote. So the continued arrest of Birtukan will increase cynicism and erode deeply the credibility of the coming election. With her in jail, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO ARGUE THAT THERE WILL BE A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION. So that is why I belive she must be asap released. Ato HAilu and Ato Lidetu also are placing theior bate of this election. So in order for them to succeed they must also do something about Birutkan and push hard for her release. The release of Birtukan will also help them in their election campaign. Otherwsie, they will keep on hearing again and again from people complaints. if they held town hall meetings, they will be asked "how could you say the election is free and fair when Birtukan and others are brutally arrested ? ". So for their own sake they must mkae Birtukan issue also as their issue.
Anyway, we will see.
Posted by: Girma Kassa | November 7, 2009 04:09 AM
Selam ATo Getachew:
The above comment is for Selam LEhulu.
However back to hwta you have asked UDJ supporters.
You wrote few unfortunate items about Eng Gizachew. I doubt you are posting in public such deragotory remarks against the UDJ vice chairman. I think I am suspecting some villain cadre may have used your name.
Anyway, Eng Gizachew is a very bright and strong leader and surely have my confidence. I have listened to many of his interviews. He is a liberal, honest and very humble. Therefore such characterization of Eng Gizachew by Getachew Reda is unfortunate.
ATo Getachew, you have been crying foul against those wrioting some stugg against Ato hailu Shawel. Anmd here you are doing the same thing against Eng Gizachew ..
What is this ? is this a double standard ?
Regards
Posted by: Girma Kassa | November 7, 2009 04:16 AM
Mr subagadis,I was late to answer over ur comments cause I got to work.anyways,we are specifically talking about Bertukuan therefore let's press on whether her arrestwas legal or else.in my own opnion,she have denies her signature to her pardon then her pardon was refuted. I understand there is mishaps here & there but but the democraitzation,developments,good governance eandovers in our country are to facilitate all the mishaps in Ethiopia. eventhough we shouldn't go back,let me ask you this: did she (Bertukuan denied her pardon on her visit to Europe? just answer this properly & we will go on.seeya tomorrow.
Posted by: Anonymous | November 7, 2009 06:33 AM
Mr Girma Kassa ,what makes Eng.Gizachew a bright leader? what is his resume? can you mention some of his accomplishment in Ethiopia so we can know about him? all we know about us is: we were sufferring all along.emagine I'm 45 yrs old & I think I know the duty of pre-EPRDF leaders of Ethiopia.wnen you say bright this man must have accomplished something visible in Ethiopia.please! give us some explanation so we can know.
Posted by: Yasin | November 7, 2009 06:41 AM
Mr Girma kassa You & your party are working day in day out to be an obstacle to the coming Ethiopian election,but we didn't see you work to make the coming election free & fair,instead you are crying "this election won't be free".now over 50 political parties have agreed the code of conduct & this by itself is one of the biggest accomplishments of EPRDF. and then the coming election will be successful & we will see what you will say.thank you
Posted by: Yasin | November 7, 2009 06:49 AM
Ato Getachew Reda, At zeru and others:
You may try to explain to Ato Girma that Bitucan is one person 24/7, he will tell you she is millions. You may tell him she is millions to you not to every one, he will tell you she is millions to millions. So don't west your time to explain to him. Because he is not fair and logical person. Let's him worship her or call her a creator of Ethiopia-so don't be surprised.
See below what I send to his personal e-mail.
Thank you,
Hi Ato Girma,
I read many of your articles but I can’t find your e-mail for a long time. I found it somewhere today.
I am an Ethiopian, who oppose illegal imprisonment of my fellow human being, whoever the name, title, gender, ethnic or political background is. I wish and I pray all political prisoners to be free as I write this letter.
However, most of your articles make me and my friends wonder what your intention is.
Because from what you post at Ethiopian websites you sound like you worship personality even more than your creator. You write day and night about one person. To be specific, you want us to believe that Birtukan is superior than other political prisoners and her family are superior than other prisoners’ families. Is that because other political prisoners didn’t get a chance to come to US and introduce themselves and their vision? Is that because they have no family they love or family who loves them? Is that because they do not deserve the God given freedom to live in their country with their beloved family? Is that because they have no dreams/visions? Is that because they are not part of UDJ?
In many articles, you said she represents all the political prisoners. Educate me how. Is she the only person in prison? Do you raise money and send it to other prisoners’ families as you and your likes do to her family? Do you even try to learn if the family of other prisoners exist and the support they need? Do you try to learn Hale and W/r Almaz are not the only people, who are crying because their take career are in prison.
Ato Girma:
Her is my two pennies!
BirtuKan is one person with vision and may have something to contribute to Ethiopia. But she is ONE human being, who can die with natural cause as all of us.
Eventhough, I believe she made a mistake for not explaining how the law was in her side to the officials (if it was) instead of to the news paper, I wish her the best and I want her to be free. But her freedom NEVER ever represent all political prisoners. Thus, don’t obsesses with one person but the whole picture of democracy. Remember, she was touring the world and introducing her vision while thousands of political prisoners were still in prison. She may be out today but others will remain there. That is why she doesn’t represent all!
I hope you will think through to what I am saying.
Thanks,
Posted by: L.F | November 7, 2009 07:56 AM
Ato Getachew Reda, At zeru and others:
You may try to explain to Ato Girma that Bitucan is one person 24/7, he will tell you she is millions. You may tell him she is millions to you not to every one, he will tell you she is millions to millions. So don't west your time to explain to him. Because he is not fair and logical person. Let's him worship her or call her a creator of Ethiopia-so don't be surprised.
See below what I send to his personal e-mail.
Thank you,
Hi Ato Girma,
I read many of your articles but I can’t find your e-mail for a long time. I found it somewhere today.
I am an Ethiopian, who oppose illegal imprisonment of my fellow human being, whoever the name, title, gender, ethnic or political background is. I wish and I pray all political prisoners to be free as I write this letter.
However, most of your articles make me and my friends wonder what your intention is.
Because from what you post at Ethiopian websites you sound like you worship personality even more than your creator. You write day and night about one person. To be specific, you want us to believe that Birtukan is superior than other political prisoners and her family are superior than other prisoners’ families. Is that because other political prisoners didn’t get a chance to come to US and introduce themselves and their vision? Is that because they have no family they love or family who loves them? Is that because they do not deserve the God given freedom to live in their country with their beloved family? Is that because they have no dreams/visions? Is that because they are not part of UDJ?
In many articles, you said she represents all the political prisoners. Educate me how. Is she the only person in prison? Do you raise money and send it to other prisoners’ families as you and your likes do to her family? Do you even try to learn if the family of other prisoners exist and the support they need? Do you try to learn Hale and W/r Almaz are not the only people, who are crying because their take career are in prison.
Ato Girma:
Her is my two pennies!
BirtuKan is one person with vision and may have something to contribute to Ethiopia. But she is ONE human being, who can die with natural cause as all of us.
Eventhough, I believe she made a mistake for not explaining how the law was in her side to the officials (if it was) instead of to the news paper, I wish her the best and I want her to be free. But her freedom NEVER ever represent all political prisoners. Thus, don’t obsesses with one person but the whole picture of democracy. Remember, she was touring the world and introducing her vision while thousands of political prisoners were still in prison. She may be out today but others will remain there. That is why she doesn’t represent all!
I hope you will think through to what I am saying.
Thanks,
Posted by: L.F | November 7, 2009 07:57 AM
From GETACHEW REDA
We still asked our brothers and sisters from the other side- that you do not like the present election participation- I asked, and many friends asked- "what is your option"? We still wait for the answer. All we are getting as a response is "Why is that Ato Meles /EPRDF/Ruling party do not want give power to the people? Or to his friends from his party? “This is not an option that we are waiting to hear why you do not want AEUDP do not want to participate. Common now!!! "Mother Ethiopia! Mother Ethiopia! Is not response brothers/sitters. Meles/EPRDF said “no I ain’t going to give it to you! Come on down and take it in any means you can! Is his answer to your question? So, no need to ask why tyrant wants not to give power to the people. It is foolish to ask such. We need to hear from you to answer all the questions we forwarded to all you to tell us "what is your option, if your Bertukan didn't get released or 'you condemned the participation of election because of what ever your reasons are. If your demands do not met- tell us the option that will lead us to DEMOCRACY and how are you going to lead us to the desired DEMOCRACY if you do not like to participate by taking the advantage of the to communicate with the people? Without that you only have a chance to communicate in an under ground movement. That we know how effective it is going to be, we have seen that in our history (Even in the last 18 years of underground opposition works). Five years passed by without doing anything. Now, you want to boycott it- I ask how long do you want to let TPLF stay in power only talking? Show us some thing- we will follow you, but, do not blame us with out showing us how to do it and who is going to do it. If Hailu is a puppet for TPLF , then you do not need to scare to bring change in shorter time- because “your claimed is that MAJORITY ETHIOPIANS ARE WITH THE BOYCOTTERS OF THIS ELECTION not with Hailu” Right? What a joke! Please guys/gals for a moment go and listen the Addis Dimts, radio,NeStanet radio, EMF, Abay, ECADF (The home of the wild racists PAL Talk house) and the rest of the rest- You will be wondering if you patently follow their words and their facts and compare them with your facts. You will be shocked how hypocrite they are. Especially EMF- he will delete words and put his own desire of sentence or word on your own post. The guy is some thing else- I ever encountered. Now days _I stopped posting any thing there, because I can’t trust the fellow. Getachew Reda www.Ethiopiansemay.blogspot.com
Posted by: GETACHEW REDA | November 7, 2009 12:03 PM
Thanks GETACHEW REDA
Ato Girma; Again Selamta;
Gizachew could be a bright fellow on your eye. To me, he is the most destructive and ignorant of justice. His sending wrong messages to the Ethiopian ears of by defending the most notorious criminals caved in his MEDREK party, that we are "waiting" (as Gebremedihin Araya putted it “to "sue them". I and you have been going debates about this many times At Abugida website. So, your defense of such person or persons is not new to me. You were preaching myth many times. I have told you that at Abugida discussion for such position of your giving support to some ex-TPLF human right abusers and criminals. So, I do not thing you and I will go forward with such issue since- we already said what each of us o say. Gizachew or Merara have no business to get in to such heavy human right issue and dismissed our claim without victims’ permission. We said that we are victims. TPLF already sent Derg criminals and human right abusers to jail by establishing court. So, now, your Gizachew and Merera are telling us saying "Tegedlenal Motenal,techefichifenal eyalin YEHUWAL TIFAT EYEGOTETIN MECHIEUN ANACHELIMIM" That ignorant/foolish I might add, is telling us "Do not come to my presidential palace to complain that you were victims of Seye, Gebru Aregash Awulom. Tekelehaimanot, name all the abusers one by one
(These are now direct or indirect involved inside MEDREK party's operation) How can claiming justice to prevail be seen as “dragging back a nation backwards?”
.But we said to these two ignorant- they are nothing but “Arena puppet/defenders!” We will take our case when ever justice prevails. when justice prevail we have evidence what they did to our family (I am talking not about your family- I am talking about my family MR.Girma!) don't you worry about me calling Gizachew "ignorant" not only he deserve to be called ignorant- but he is also ridiculous. By the way "DID YOU HEAR MEREA GUDINA- saying I ONLY goes to the PARLAMENT HOUSE one day in a YEAR? He is getting paid to go one day in a year? Is that not waste of money? How is that he is claiming then he is challenging TPLF in the parliament? I need his followers to tell us the story and your reaction. One day only in one year and he gets paid for it thousands of Dollars for one day only in one year!? Oh!-Corruption or what? He too should be in court in the future for wasting the farmers/tax payers money as member of his own chose (parliament member) falsely claiming representing his followers/Ethiopians in the parliament by being there one day in one year.-//-Sick! Indeed!
Posted by: GETACHEW REDA | November 7, 2009 12:48 PM
At last it looks like we Ethiopian wake up to the smell of coffee. It is always a good news when political groups show some maturity towards consensus. After all they have only one country, Ethiopia and can't afford to see her being destroyed by siblings. In the first place Why do we Ethiopians fail to work towards compromise and hence insult each other over some minor issues. Why do we create false hero and heroine and not a genuine International statesman or woman? Much could be said and asked about ourself and our politicians in General. The fact of the matter is most of us are selfish and we care no body or country but ourself. Let us all put the interest of our people first and not ourself and our political parties. Let us all think above and beyond narrow party lines. Let's all start to think big and large about our beloved country,Ethiopia, before and above any thing else. Let's all be sane and sober so that we can deliver together to the call of our mother land. What our country needs right now is not a person who talks but instead a person who acts. Action, using his/her rational thinking and not emotional one.There is no place for emotion in politics. But we don't seem to understand that. What we can observe from some of our so called politicians is when they are bubbling with fury or being in a state of an uncontrollable emotion, when ever they try to answer a question of some sort. Well, I wish I could dispel this myth from now on. coming to my conclusion, I would like to congratulate the four fantastic,(AEUP,EPRDF,CUD and EDP) who took the initiative to show the rest of US how it is done. It is a brilliant and huge step forward to help our country and our people out of their misery,by working together for common national interest. As for their party policies, the could still go their separate ways. As for the rest of the oppositions, well the time is ticking so they better hasten to this noble cause. May God bless us all and our country, Ethiopia, Amen!!!
Posted by: Salih | November 7, 2009 09:31 PM
Brtukan midekssa is not just one person. She is the voice of the voiceless majority of Ethiopians. she is truly the future of Ethiopia. There is no red/white terror blood in her hands. She is not intoxicated with ethnic politics. she is a true and 100% ethiopian in spirit and dream. She is NOT azz licking politician likes Lidetu and Hailu.
There is not going to be real election with her being locked up. Weyane can always have its fake election, nothing changes. IT WILL NEVER GET LOVE AND RESPECT FROM THE ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE. No power will remain forever by guns only
Posted by: ethiopian kid | November 8, 2009 04:50 AM
Tew...twe...reda wedey!
Posted by: TeAges | November 8, 2009 05:29 AM
Parasite Woyane, you were very happy when your idiot foreign minster had a chance to talk to Hilary.
This is a sad chapter in our country to keep going being dependant. 10% economic growth and over 6 million starvation it does not fit. Woyane, you have really despised our people. I feel this gov't is a collection of lumpens, no regard even for its origion
Posted by: tadese | November 8, 2009 07:18 AM
Port should not be the issue right now. Ethiopians have a choise of which port to use. The main issue for the parties should focus on the needs of the society and to have a policy that create a a better system of governance that improve the quality of life of each citizen. Above all both the government and the opposition parties have to embrace one another to share power and develop a transition frame work that guarantee the security and safety of each citizen including the people in power. stop the revenge mentality and learn how to move forward with out blood shade and violence. A political prisoner will not solve the problem instead it put more fire to the already burning into ashes conflict. Release Burtican she is not a threat she actually strengthen the political atmosphere in Ethiopia to take a mercy act as our true identity. Long live Ethiopia and let god help us in establishing a bright feature !!! Adios !!
Posted by: tola | November 8, 2009 04:05 PM
What surprizes me most about the diaspora people is they think they can make a diffrence by smear camapaigning on internets and radios.
Diasporans you are calling for every kind of boycoat, overthrowing the govt, bringing back assab and so on. Who is going to die for you? If you were true to yourself and are willing to pay the sacrifice for what you believe in some might follow your steps. Be couragoes show them the road else people will never take you seriously.
Finally sincere message to deki a'dey, deki Tigray the chauvinists are not for democracy but for power. All this cry about democracy and election is gulbab. The simple reason they hate EPRDF is b/s they consider EPRDF a Tigryan party. If it was about democracy it is clear that it is EPRDF who brought democracy for the first time in the history of Ethiopia. But they will never accept this fact. Can you imagine if EPRDF was cnsidered as an Amharan party kindey mitsahafu? Kindey metneade? kindey mtewedese?
Let alone a domcratic party such as EPRDF they are glorifying dicators such as Haileselsse who naplam bombed the people of Tigray in using British air force. We should be proud and tell them in their face that we are proud of the contribution TPLF as a Tigryan party made the contribution to bring democracy in Ethiopia. what is wrong with glorifying our history when they are glorifying ther evils leaders as angeles?
Posted by: G.G | November 9, 2009 03:33 AM
this is weyane shit and AEUP kizen.it will not cheat the people and has killed Hailu the cheat.
Posted by: kebede desta | November 9, 2009 07:41 AM
we would like to thank you salih, for your briliant comment dated on 7th november. we share your view and that's how our politician should act for the future of our country and our people.
Posted by: umu amin and friends | November 9, 2009 09:41 AM
we would like to thank you salih, for your briliant comment dated on 7th november. we share your view and that's how our politician should act for the future of our country and our people.
Posted by: umu amin and friends | November 9, 2009 09:41 AM
viva Aiga!!!!
Ethiopia is going through a change for for the good. When ever there is a change there is always 50% opposition for the change and 50% acceptance for the change. this normal . So do not surprise for those who are opposing EPDRF. b/c EPDRF ia an agent for change in Ethiopia. Change is a new issue for Ethiopia. We never had s single change for the last hundred years.
EPDRF is pavig the road for a real change by building the infrastructure to make history famine and ellitracy from Ethiopian once and forever. EPDRF builds road, energy, universitys,highschool and elementary school, clinics and hospitals buildings,bridges,airports,air palnes,tourism and hotels you name it EPDRF is doing everything that make Ethiopians librated from hunger and illitracy.
so join EPDRF to bring Ethiopia to civilization.And EPDRF also try hard to bring all the oppostion party to join you!!!! Thanks...
Posted by: Anonymous | November 9, 2009 10:04 AM